Mac OS 9 booting on: Mac mini G4 (Detailed Posts)

[DieHard]

Dark?
That german show?

Never saw it but it's popular between some friends of mine 😜

Yep... probably the best written Sci-Fi series in all of human history, extremely well produced with a great audio track done with some very rare audio retro synths and sound generators; the Germans have very talented actors, blows Hollywood away

[GaryN]

This thread started five tears ago and is now fifteen pages long!
The best part is that it's the top pinned "reference" thread in the unsupported section.

I can only imagine some poor slob who gets himself a Mini, signs up and on here for help, sees the title and gets happy…

THEN… opens it to find post after post of yada yada yada yada and has to spend two days trying to sort out the useful info.
   

[IIO]

the best about some of these thread is that they start with pointing out something which is not possible, and a few years later it is.

[Philgood]

Dark?
That german show?

Never saw it but it's popular between some friends of mine 😜

Yep... probably the best written Sci-Fi series in all of human history, extremely well produced with a great audio track done with some very rare audio retro synths and sound generators; the Germans have very talented actors, blows Hollywood away

Will give it try!
Thanks boss.

[DieHard]

This thread started five tears ago and is now fifteen pages long!
The best part is that it's the top pinned "reference" thread in the unsupported section.

I can only imagine some poor slob who gets himself a Mini, signs up and on here for help, sees the title and gets happy…

THEN… opens it to find post after post of yada yada yada yada and has to spend two days trying to sort out the useful info.
   

I modified the original initial post after v9 to direct link newbies to the current download last week to avoid that exact scenario

[RossDarker]

Excellent that the first post has been updated.

Here's the v9 updater sit:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15jMcmrz5ToAcsmC5aXUU_GDqqiMMG_jX/view?usp=sharing

Note that this is not a combo update, and should only be used on v8 systems, if currently on v7 or below, update to v8 first, then v9.

[IIO]

is that moth video on the dl page still up-to-date?

[RossDarker]

is that moth video on the dl page still up-to-date?

It’s just v8 instead of 9 but all the same principle.

[GaryN]

I modified the original initial post after v9 to direct link newbies to the current download last week to avoid that exact scenario

Oh………

[IIO]

It’s just v8 instead of 9 but all the same principle.

ah ok. i havent tried yet. i thought there is an option to not reformat now.

[RossDarker]

ah ok. i havent tried yet. i thought there is an option to not reformat now.

The sit file I posted yesterday will update you to v9 without reformatting.

[IIO]

somehow i think i still dont understand.

isnt the v9 update´s main purpose that you dont have to reformat the boot disk on a fresh mini?

that is what i meant when i asked last week if we can skip the ASR thing completly now.

[RossDarker]

Yes, the whole v9 thing has all the new stuff.
The ISO image for v9 is for if you want to do a fresh install of v9, includes reformatting the disk, and uses ASR.
The updater app will update a current install of v8 to v9, without reformatting the disk and doesn't use any ASR.

[IIO]

but v8 requires reformatting so it is the same thing, no?

gotta sort my braon later and then check it out, i should have one g4 left without OS9.

[RossDarker]

There is an updater to v8 too which doesn't need reformatting, for if you're on v7 or below. Once you then on v8 then the v9 updater can be used.

[IIO]

so the scenario in the future is the following:

 - we have a mini OS, which does need an OS9 driver to be on the disk.

 - someone has a mac mini G4 with - of course - no OS9 driver on the disk.

 - now he wants to put OS9 on his mini without loosing his files.

how does the updaters, which requires a previous version of the image, which requires to reformat, help in this case?

[RossDarker]

The ROM that ELN released, which is used in v9, also means that you can boot without needing OS 9 drivers on the disk I believe.

So in this scenario, they’d just use the iso to restore to a new partition, which comes down to adding a new partition without reformatting. Can’t remember if you can do this on tiger or below but I think on leopard you can.

Or in the ASR window, there was an option to restore in place, which should not reformat the disk, I think.

[xchris]

@IIO if you are on Tiger :

drive genius / tech tool etc lots of options...

[IIO]

The ROM that ELN released, which is used in v9, also means that you can boot without needing OS 9 drivers on the disk I believe.

and that why i thought we could skip the restore process completely and just provide the system folder or a vise installer to new users.

i know that otoh this might trick people into thinking you can do dual boot from one partition (if they only have one partition) but somehow it seems more straight forward to me.

as long as the HD is formatted with HFS+ you dont even had to burn a CD, but use an usb stick. if you have OSX present, you could even directly download OS9.

gotta pimp another 1.42 now.

[RossDarker]

I suppose in that case, you could mount the restore image in the Configurations folder in the ISO image and drag the three folders (system folder, applications and the other one) onto a disk.