Mac OS 9 booting on: Mac mini G4 (Detailed Posts)

[IIO]

that is where this utility called "Tiger" comes to play; it formats your firewiredisks and even allows partitions.

[DieHard]

that is where this utility called "Tiger" comes to play; it formats your firewiredisks and even allows partitions.

In OS 9 ?  Never heard of that utility

[RossDarker]

Guys I'll have a new ISO soon, to make Drive Setup 1.9.2 to autostart instead of 2.1, and replace the alias in apple menu items with the 1.9.2 one, also it's modded so it will come up in the centre instead of corner and not get covered, thanks to IIO's method.

And also a new SIT archive (well IMG inside the SIT archive, that will still do everything for you automatically, but there was 1 extension I missed off copying over in the last one, so this new one will add that in too).

I'll either have these today or tomorrow, just got to test it all first.

[RossDarker]

see post below for v8.
Ignore attachment (old)

[IIO]

In OS 9 ?  Never heard of that utility

nah, unfortunatley you must install it parallel to OS9

[RossDarker]

Just had a thought that I should edit the System IMG you restore, so that has Drive Setup 1.9.2 in instead of the 2.1. I will do that tomorrow, so for now don't put the ISO above on the download thing just yet as I'll have yet another one tomorrow. And maybe I will change the updater so it also puts in 1.9.2 when you use the "update to v7" app. So yeah don't put anything up that I posted above yet as I'll have newer versions tomorrow.

[RossDarker]

And if anyone wants to try on a mac that isn't a ti or a mini, (this won't work on mac mini as the model is changed in the rom again), change your model id of your machine, in open firmware, to what the ti is (PowerBook3,5), and see if you can use Drive Setup 2.1 on FW drives. If you still can't then maybe the Ti has some unique hardware feature that will allow 2.1 to format FW drives.

[IIO]

if 2.1 doesnt have any new features, one should ban it from everywhere.

[FdB]

COMPLETELY in agreement with you there IIO!

[FdB]

Just had a thought that I should edit the System IMG
you restore, so that it has Drive Setup 1.9.2 instead
of the 2.1. I will do that tomorrow.

Just reformatted the mSATA with Drive Setup 1.9.2
(booted and used from like-formatted FW drive)
and now, V.5 installer AND… 10.4 Tiger recognize
all partitions set up via 1.9.2. I await the IMG
mentioned above before re-installs of Tiger and 9.2.2.

Previous partitions set up via Tiger install disk were
not recognized by the V.5 installer.

V.5 is still the only version that allows (Option-boot
or C-boot) installs here. CDs of V.6 and V.7 do not.

I do have a pared-down, patched-up version of V.7
on the slow FW drive to boot from.

[IIO]

V.5 is still the only version that allows (Option-boot
or C-boot) installs here. CDs of V.6 and V.7 do not.

what could be the reason you cant boot from a v7 CD? or have we (or actually you two) discussed that before?

[FdB]

Really don't know. And we have discussed it before. I've just hacked and whacked around it.
Even now, with the Drive Setup 1.9.3 used to format, it won't (Option or C-boot) from V6 or V7 CDs.
Will see if latest version proves any different, later today perhaps?

[RossDarker]

Have no clue why Fury can't boot the CD anything after v5 because no one else has that problem, you can use the updater to update to v8, if you still can't boot the CD, anyway got a new ISO and updater, v8 this time...

ISO (v8) : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RocAG5EizhVw_YjY4VlKi0OG4d7wQARj/view?usp=sharing

Updater app (combo update any config of OS 9 to run on Mac mini) : https://drive.google.com/file/d/17n20BaT_bLgBtsGJwS0D-6sNWJ-Kuluh/view?usp=sharing

and updater app is also attached for convenience.

v8 has improvements from v7 and below.

[FdB]

Speak of da devil. Downloading V8 now (even sounds more powerful and possibly, healthier?) 
I just accept the possibility that I may have to hack around a bit, always. Genetics? A curse?
Who knows? Descartes' evil genius fooling' with me (again).
Cogito ergo (raspberry sound).

[FdB]

Answer: D. None of the above.

Operator error. Doing it wrong in El Crapitan 10.11.6 ...since v.6.

V8 now installing after Option-booting the CD.

My apologies. I am quite verily ashamed.

[RossDarker]

Well that's good to know you got it working.

[Protools5LEGuy]

Pictures 1 to 7 MacBench 3 results

Picture 8 and 10 (no 9) MacBench 5

Please, someone with a fast Mini, tell me if  my 17" PB machine is Faster (CPU/FPU/Graphics) than yours 1.x machine due to the 7448 and the L3 cache. Take account that I run the tests at native 1440x900 resolution.

Mod:     PowerPC 7455 (G4)

[FdB]

17” PB = 1Ghz or 1.5 GHz?

Only ran one series of MacBench 3.0 tests with Processor and FPU checked,
on a 1.5GHz mini with the Ableconn and the 120GB Zheino… and didn’t run the
Graphics tests. (Sorry text only - no charts.) Read/Write disk tests, here:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4435.msg31650.html#msg31650

Just installed v.8 last night and eventually will run MacBench 3.0 again.

[MacTron]

7448 and the L3 cache

A 7448,,,  where? 
... and with L3 cache? 

[Jubadub]

I do have a pretty decent build system that I am more than happy to share, to help with, or just to run on request. It is useful even just to make changes to the Open Firmware script a la iMic. So if anyone on the board wants to tinker but needs help getting started — or if they know someone who might — then get in touch!

Just wanted to state I'm interested, but only around September in case no one else steps up before then. The reason I can't act any earlier is because my hands are tied, as I'm currently immigrating countries (dual citizenship, woo), then will have to secure work and house first, on top of getting ready for getting married before the end of the year.

Also, guys, great job on those newer Mini ISO releases. This is looking fine!!

Thanks to this project and everyone's efforts (particularly ELN and the other core developers), my mini became my main OS 9 machine. Compact and perfect. Thank you all once more.