E-Mu Classic Series Sample CDS

[MacTron]

symphonic orchestra 5 dvd set seems to be complete.

Thank you very much. I'm still downloading the second DVD ...
But I have already tested the first one. The library comes in a compressed (and/or encrypted ) file, the DVD contains a installer and must be installed into a windows machine. The instruments have an exb. extension and the samples .ebl . CdXtract can't open (nor convert) them,


... but Extreme Sampler Converter and ChickenSys Translator can.
tested and confirmed! LOL

Would you be so generous to convert them to a OS9-friendly format?

The best option is to download the E-MU originals, and each one of us, convert them to its preferred sampler format. Even in Mac Os 9 we are not agree on a format to choose, some may prefer Halion, others EXS or Kontakt, others Sampletank, SoundFont, Reason etc ...

Are some conversion targets a downgrade in terms of quality?

It depends on the source. If the source instrument is simple and basic, the SoundFont or Sampletank format will be enough. If the instruments are complex like this Modern Symphonic Orchestra, (with Key Switches, Round Robin, etc) it must be converted to Kompakt/Kontakt.
... OK, Halion or EXS can be used also, but at its own risk ...  LOL

[MacTron]

im trying to find this one - it has a particularly lovely piano
patch i think its called "perfect piano"

 The Ensoniq ZR SoundFont is a collection of multiple instruments that were included with the ZR76 keyboard. Ensoniq sound designers used the content that had been collected for the samplers. Special note - A Kawai 9ft Grand has been substituted for the Perfect Piano due to license restrictions.

Only Kawai for me.

Yamaha => too bright.
Steinway => nose sound.
Bosendorfer => too dark.
Fazioli => dark and nose sound.

So we have to find this piano ...
BTW, we already have some Kawai around here ... can you guess where they are? In my Custom 32Gb Kompakt Library we have the Wizoo Kawai ( it was available in Halion Format in our old FTP server, but I don't know where I have placed the original CD    ) . This piano is also available as a VST plugins with the name of Steinberg The Grand.

[supernova777]

i have your 32gb library living on my WD Studio Firewire drive 500gb   sample library drive

i still have to download protoolsguy's library.. if it is still posted?

i will have to put all this stuff in there too once it gets all converted
hmm i forgot this drive has usb2.0 too.. 

these e-mu samples may not be the best but what i like about them the most is that they are historical.. in that they were used for many songs
that were released in the 90s and late 80s having the same sounds as what was on the hardware units released from 1987 onwards

[Protools5LEGuy]

Would you be so generous to convert them to a OS9-friendly format?

The best option is to download the E-MU originals, and each one of us, convert them to its preferred sampler format. Even in Mac Os 9 we are not agree on a format to choose, some may prefer Halion, others EXS or Kontakt, others Sampletank, SoundFont, Reason etc ...

What about Vault users that hasn't Extreme Sample Converter?

Any know way to use that EMU stuff in OS9?

[supernova777]

What about Vault users that hasn't Extreme Sample Converter?

Any know way to use that EMU stuff in OS9?

dude? he JUST SAID that he has successfully tested with chicken systems translator + Xtreme sample converter..
so those are the only ones he has tested..

why dont YOU test CDExtract for mac os 9? (i posted this in a thread its the same as the osx version it works in both)

[MacTron]

The instruments have an exb. extension and the samples .ebl . CdXtract can't open (nor convert) them,

[supernova777]

cdextract should work for the "Classic series" ones... (which are in emu native sampler format)
and any other "akai format" or "ensoniq format" sample cds in hardware sampler format

[MacTron]

cdextract should work for the "Classic series" ones... (which are in emu native sampler format)
and any other "akai format" or "ensoniq format" sample cds in hardware sampler format

Yes, it will work if you record it to real CD previously ( using both the .bin and .cue files usually ). But I'm talking about EMU-X format ( .exb ), the format of the E-MU Modern Synphonic Orchestra.

[supernova777]

here are the links for one i am missing "old world instruments"
http://vstbase.com/41722-e-mu-old-world-instruments-emu-alfiso.html

E-MU Old World Instruments EMU-ALFiSO

These instruments were expertly sampled with their natural decay whenever possible, and each bank provides you with both the pure, unprocessed presets, as well as effected versions - all optimized to EMU's unrivalled synthesis engine. As an added bonus there is a special 'Best Of' bank of sounds from the Proteus 3 World module, a true 'classic' in the industry and heard on countless hits over the years. Unique and exotic, these sounds will add a special 'spice' to any composition!

http://ul.to/ml8tns80
http://ul.to/63afuuwq
http://ul.to/n8qh02oe
http://ul.to/nu7pfuf3
http://ul.to/b8zwitgb
http://ul.to/xc2329h8
http://ul.to/umx2p0c3
http://ul.to/7xseijm8
http://ul.to/x04lag41
http://ul.to/i002qoih
http://ul.to/r55batmf
http://ul.to/8no9x2b1
http://ul.to/gdkfhs3v
(13 x 80mb parts)

it takes some time to download all these parts because u can only get one every hour or something like that
unless u have premium account and this site wont accept my credit card for some reason

i get this message now: "You have reached the max. number of possible free downloads for this hour, please try again in an hour or purchase one of our premium products."

similarly i want to grab this: http://audioz.eu/samplelibraries/multi-libraries/43277-download_wizoo-drums-for-battery3.html
if anyone has a UL.TO account .. ??
i have a rapidgator account only

without a premium acct it will take me a few days to get this :S

another part im missing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EMU-Vintage-X-Pro-Volume-2-Synthesizers-/381087346579?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58ba936f93
the vintage x pro came in 3 volumes of 4 cds each i think..

Emu Vintage X Pro Volume 2 Synthesizers Features:
-For use with Emulator X and Proteus X
-9 Banks
  -Elka Rhapsody String Ensemble
  -E-mu Modular Synthesizer
  -Roland Juno 60 Synthesizer
  -Mellotron
  -Millennium Collection
  -Korg MS-20 FX & Percussion
  -Solina String Ensemble
  -Oberheim OB-Xa Synthesizer
  -Roland TB303 Bass Line Synthesizer
-277 Presets
-Over 2.5 GB of Sounds
-Retail Box Contents
  -Four sounds CD-ROMs
  -Sounds booklet

so yea to summarize after i get the world instruments above..
then i will be missing the platinum 88 piano one (http://emu.com/index.php/product-platinum-88)
(piano demo: http://web.archive.org/web/20101226005506/http://www.emu.com/products/mp3s/Platinum_88_Demo.mp3), + vol 2 + vol 3 of the vintage x pro seris.. + the 2nd half of vol 1 of the vintage x pro series
(of which i only have the first 2 cds out of 4)

[supernova777]

as i suspected the E-mu EIIIX was one of the first Samplers to feature BUILT IN SCSI for attaching an external SCSI CDROM DRIVE frm which to read these samples
which is why they made these classic series cds

some more info on that:
http://synthark.com/synthesizer-museum/emu-gallery/emulator-archive/samplers/emulator-iiix/scsi/

Emulator IIIx : SCSI

Overview SCSI is an industry standrad hardware and software specification that allows high speed data transfers between different pieces of equipment. SCSI devices can include hard disks, tape drives, optical disks and computers. The EIIIx has two SCSI connectors as standard, which operate at SCSI 1

Cable Type The EIIIx uses a 50-pin Centronics type connector, and the EIII a 25-pin DB25 connector. Always use high quality cabling with all pins wired.

Cable Length Limit the total SCSI cable length to 15 feet.

pretty awesome for 1993
im surprised to see AES/EBU connections. + XLR outputs

apparently there was a keyboard version of the emulator III too
from 1987 many years prior
http://synthark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Emulator-III-Rear.jpg
http://synthark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Emulator-III-with-manual.jpg
with 16 individual outputs!!

[supernova777]

http://www.digitalproaudiosamples.com/#!e-mu-esc-sound-libraries/c1tse

here they seem to still be selling these.. +  a few other titles previously not listed

[IIO]

The good point about Extreme Sample Converter is that don't need a real recorded CD ROM

just like chicken or cdextract, too.

[supernova777]

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2123845
difference Proteus X vs Emulator X

[supernova777]

uploading the missing "World instruments" now 

attached is a chart of the ones that i have.. (in green)
the ones im missing (in orange)
and the one i have partially (in red)



anyways if someone could help me find these missing peices that would be great;)
if not ohwell.. but , so close to complete collection;)

i might buy this vol2 vintage pro x its on ebay for 19.99
but i cant find vol3 anywhere

[supernova777]

http://web.archive.org/web/19980213071101/http://www.emu.com/sndsals.htm

on the 1996 emu website backup we see these cds were originally 95$ each!!!
also shows that a few of them are missing from the collection
and verifies that these discs date from prior to 1996;o

[IIO]

Yes, it is. And for most of the others converters too.

it should work, i´ve converted thousands of akais directly from toast image files using cdxtract.

(but because of the chrashes when browsing bad images i´d recommend to still do it in bluebox or OSX.)

[IIO]

Yes, it is. And for most of the others converters too.

it should work, i´ve converted thousands of akais directly from toast image files using cdxtract.

it is kind of the main function of this program, and it is the very first function in the menubar.

(but because of the chrashes when browsing bad images i´d recommend to still do it in bluebox or OSX.)

[MacTron]

I've made a few test with this E-MU Modern Symphonic Orchestra, and I have found that really sounds good.
Most instruments are not chromatically sampled and with few (or only one) velocity layers but it's a 10 GB library with the instruments very well organised.
It is superior than Garritan SO and inferior than Vienna SO. It sits comfortable between EWQLSO Silver and EWQLSO Gold in terms of quality.

[Protools5LEGuy]

I've made a few test with this E-MU Modern Symphonic Orchestra, and I have found that really sounds good.
Most instruments are not chromatically sampled and with few (or only one) velocity layers but it's a 10 GB library with the instruments very well organised.
It is superior than Garritan SO and inferior than Vienna SO. It sits comfortable between EWQLSO Silver and EWQLSO Gold in terms of quality.

Thanks for the review!

Could you describe approx. the weight of Garritan SO, Vienna SO, EWQLSO silver and gold ? I mean GB per library. We know some libraries weight more that them worth... And others, surprisingly with low GB sound great.

I agree with Chris, this sound are historical.

[MacTron]

Could you describe approx. the weight of Garritan SO, Vienna SO, EWQLSO silver and gold ? I mean GB per library. We know some libraries weight more that them worth... And others, surprisingly with low GB sound great.

Garritan SO = 1.8 GB
EWQLSO silver = 2.6 GB
EWQLSO silver XP = 6 GB
EMU Modern SO = 10 GB
EWQLSO Gold = 16 GB
EWQLSO Gold XP = 26 GB
Vienna SO Opus 1&2 = 26 GB