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Final Cut Pro 3.0
« on: February 16, 2015, 03:40:19 PM »


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Final Cut Pro 3 is the only professional nonlinear editor available that lets you work in the entire range of professional editing formats — from DV to SD and HD — within the same affordable application. Final Cut Pro 3 allows you to seamlessly work in different modes — like editing, effects and trimming modes for example. And with Final Cut Pro’s G4 realtime effects, you don’t need PCI hardware to preview transitions and effects in realtime.

This video editing powerhouse harnesses the G4 Velocity Engine to deliver breakthrough new capabilities — including the ability to preview effects and transitions in realtime without additional PCI hardware. And it’s now available for the world’s most advanced operating system, Mac OS X.

Final Cut Pro 3 gives you the benefits of the industry’s first out-of-the-box, realtime effects architecture — without the obvious drawbacks of rigid proprietary systems that can cost tens of thousands of dollars more. With Final Cut Pro 3, wipes, dissolves and color correction happen in G4 realtime when using DV and OfflineRT — Apple’s revolutionary new offline format that lets your Power Mac G4 or Titanium PowerBook G4 hold up to five times as much footage as it can with DV — with no PCI card required.
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You can capture and transcode DV footage to OfflineRT using a simple FireWire connection. The first native offline format available for DV, (it can also be used by editors working with standard definition or high definition formats) OfflineRT is perfect for editing on the run, providing over 40 minutes of video per gigabyte of hard disk space. This means you can carry around massive amounts of timecode-accurate video — storing more than 24 hours worth of footage on a PowerBook G4’s 48GB internal hard drive — that you can reconnect to the original source material whenever you’re ready, without having to resort to special external storage solutions.
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Final Cut Pro 3 leverages the power of the G4 Velocity Engine to deliver dual-stream, realtime effects such as cross-dissolves, titles and color correction. The number and complexity of G4 realtime effects scale as processing power increases — install the software on a 800MHz dual processor Power Mac G4, for instance, and you’ll be ready for almost anything — but because Final Cut Pro 3 has no add-in hardware requirements, even editors using it on a PowerBook G4 have access to true realtime effects playback.

And whether you’re working on a Power Mac G4 system at a dedicated edit bay or on a PowerBook G4 out on the road, the combination of Apple’s G4 firepower, Mac OS ease-of-use and the astonishing depth and sheer versatility of the Final Cut Pro 3 toolset makes this a compelling value proposition.

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Capture audio directly to your timeline
Final Cut Pro 3 features a new Voice Over tool that works with the microphone built into your PowerBook G4, so you can capture audio directly to the timeline for quick scratch tracks and voice-over work right in the field. And Final Cut Pro can export to Open Media Framework (OMF) audio which means that you can use the best audio mixing tools and talents in the business.
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Final Cut Pro 3 requires Mac OS X v10.1.1 or Mac OS 9.2.2, a Macintosh computer with a 300MHz or faster PowerPC G3 or G4 processor with built-in FireWire, 256MB of RAM (384MB recommended for G4 realtime effects), and 40MB of available disk space for installation. Actual SRP for Final Cut Pro 3 is $999. 500 MHz or faster single or dual processor Power Mac G4 or PowerBook G4 required for G4 real-time effects. 667-MHz PowerBook G4 required for mobile G4 real-time effects in DV format. SD and HD editing requires a Power Mac G4 and third-party capture card.

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 03:55:24 PM »
A Brief History of Final Cut Pro
http://interactivetimeline.com/884/a-brief-history-of-final-cut-pro/list.php?w=480

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Cut_Pro#History
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Randy Ubillos created the first three versions of Adobe Premiere, the first popular digital video editing application.[5] Before version 5 was released, Ubillos' group was hired by Macromedia to create KeyGrip, built from the ground up as a more professional video-editing program based on Apple QuickTime. Macromedia could not release the product without causing its partner Truevision some issues with Microsoft, as KeyGrip was, in part, based on technology from Microsoft licensed to Truevision and then in turn to Macromedia. The terms of the IP licensing deal stated that it was not to be used in conjunction with QuickTime. Thus, Macromedia was forced to keep the product off the market until a solution could be found. At the same time, the company decided to focus more on applications that would support the web, so they sought to find a buyer for their non-web applications, including KeyGrip, which by 1998 was renamed Final Cut.

Final Cut was shown in private room demonstrations as a 0.9 alpha at the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) exposition in 1998 after Macromedia pulled out of the main show floor. At the demonstration, both Mac and Windows versions were shown. The Mac version was working with a Truevision RTX dual stream real time card with limited real time effects. When no purchaser could be found, Apple purchased the team as a defensive move. When Apple could not find a buyer in turn, it continued development work, focusing on adding FireWire/DV support and introduced Final Cut Pro at NAB 1999.

In order that Final Cut Pro would be supported from the beginning with third-party self-paced and instructor-led training, Apple worked with DVcreators.net, who released a training disc called "Final Cut Pro PowerStart" at NAB on the day Final Cut Pro was released. Apple worked with DVcreators.net to host hundreds of free and paid Final Cut Pro seminars and workshops in 60 cities in the U.S., Canada and other countries over the following years, a strategy that some feel fundamentally contributed to Final Cut Pro's early awareness in the marketplace and rise in market share.
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Final Cut Pro benefited from the relative maturity of QuickTime and its native support for then-new DV cameras connected with FireWire (IEEE1394).

The first fully Broadcast quality, Worldwide Distributed TV show produced on Final Cut Pro was 2000's WOW! Women of Wrestling, using the Pinnacle CinéWave uncompressed video card. The Oxygen Network was a beta site for Final Cut Pro in late 1999 through network launch in early 2000. Shows like ShE-Commerce were cut using FCP.

In late 2001, the studio motion picture The Rules of Attraction was edited on beta versions of Final Cut Pro 3, proving to the film industry that successful 3:2 pulldown matchback to 24fps could be achieved with a "consumer" off-the-shelf product.[7] Roger Avary, the film's director became the spokesperson for Final Cut Pro, appearing in print advertisements worldwide. His advocacy of the product gave confidence to mainstream editors such as Walter Murch, that the product was ready for "prime time."

In August 2002, the application won a Primetime Emmy Engineering Award for its impact on the television industry


Tricks on the Wall for Final Cut Pro:

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/tips/final_cut_pro_3_tweaks/final_cut_pro_3_tweaks.html

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The different Mac's gets the following cpuclass tags:

CPU speed 0: If you got a G3 or a G4 below 550.

CPU speed 1: If you got a single G4 550 or above.

CPU speed 2: If you got a single G4 667 or above.

CPU speed 3: If your G4 is 500 and above AND your L2+L3 cache is 1 meg or above. If you got a single G4 733 or above. If you got more than 2 G4 Cpu's.

CPU speed 4: If there is more than 2 G4 Cpu's which run at, or above, 800 mHz.

CPU speed 42: For unlimited FX, only included for testing purposes.

Final Cut behaves differently when you have an old/slow machine. On the article of XLR8your mac a G4 450 dual user change things to be from here

To here


Green bar over timeline means run in real-time and no need to render

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"DISCLAIMER:
The script is just a modified version of Apples own script which were already in FCP3, there is no magic involved!

It will not make FCP3 any faster at rendering!
It will not make your computer any more powerfull!
It might not even work on your machine reliable and possibly not at all!
It just removes the machine-check that Apple has put in the software, and thereby opens up for all the fx.

If your machine cannot handle the load it wil studder and drop frames, but it will give you a preview.
Thats why I put the old script on my site, so you can try the modified version and if it does not work, just put the old one back.

All I said was that I had success doing it, so please feel free to try it out, and if it does not work, or it gives you any problems, put the old one back!

I have received some positive e-mails, even one owning a yikes 400 mhz which now can do real-time dissolves, but with frame dropping on long dissolves!"
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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 12:08:58 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz6EW64fF-U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz6EW64fF-U</a>

Jump to 6:00 to see Steve Jobs presenting FCP 3.0 for OSX. The performance on OS9 was the same, as some Video Users have noticed everywhere.

They was showing OSX to sell it, and to show that everybody should convert.  ;D

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0fhMcua-Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0fhMcua-Q</a>

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 01:14:48 AM »
I believe we need to start sorting that out. There are codec's for final output and codecs to work with. Divx/xvid are final output, mpeg's the same. These codecs are harder to work with.

... well may be... it depends on the App used, if it can work with inter-frame compression or not.
For my last video works I have used MP4 videos at 1280 x 720p @ 24fps from my old Sony Ericsson Vivaz cellular and opened directly in VideoShop (without pre-rendering) edited trimmed and added transitions ( using a MP4 codec) and save to QuickTime .mov without re-rendering again. As you can imagine all the process was done in Real Time, without extra hardware needed.
Once you have the final .mov file, you can render it (or leave it as is) to the format you wish (Mpeg1/2 avi/Divx, MP4 etc...) using QuickTime Player. An hour of final video can take 15 min to an hour max. By the way, the same work in Final Cut may take from two to three hours ... That's why I don't like Final Cut it spend most of the time re-rendering ...

I think you have a misconception on what FCP does. Please, check out the 2nd YouTube video.If you give FCP the video in DV codec (or the MJPEG), with the power of a G4 it do on the fly blend of 2 (or more) videos and transitions without rendering if you have a G4 500. It allow you edit videos with easy without been rendering every transition as it was usually the way with Premiere, for example. That was the revolution.

Also, the color correction thing was awesome, because on Premiere you should be rendering it to preview.

Of course the rendering time is lost time of your life.  ;D

Every tool that allow you to avoid "re-rendering" as you say should be considered an advance.

FCP only needs one rendering once the edition is finished. Just for final output on a file.

You can still output to DV and record with a DV deck to avoid encoding (?). At least RT-Mac with FCP allows it.
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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 05:26:22 AM »
... If you give FCP the video in DV codec (or the MJPEG) ...

MJPEG ...
DV ?

LOL
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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 05:38:41 AM »
dont under estimate mjpg. most video cards used that codec to capture back in the days, even the big ones m100 for example. dv is fixed rate so any harddrive could work with it since it is just a moving data from medium to medium. there is no real capture involved technically. but if you go via hardware its a different story.

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 06:15:46 AM »

MJPEG ...
DV ?

LOL
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_JPEG

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In multimedia, Motion JPEG (M-JPEG or MJPEG) is a video compression format in which each video frame or interlaced field of a digital video sequence is compressed separately as a JPEG image. Originally developed for multimedia PC applications, M-JPEG is now used by video-capture devices such as digital cameras, IP cameras, and webcams; and by non-linear video editing systems. It continues to enjoy native support by the QuickTime Player, the PlayStation console, and browsers such as Safari, Google Chrome, and Mozilla Firefox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

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DV uses lossy compression of video while audio is stored uncompressed.[2] An intraframe video compression scheme is used to compress video on a frame-by-frame basis with the discrete cosine transform (DCT).

Closely following ITU-R Rec. 601 standard, DV video employs interlaced scanning with the luminance sampling frequency of 13.5 MHz. This results in 480 scanlines per complete frame for the 60 Hz system, and 576 scanlines per complete frame for the 50 Hz system. In both systems the active area contains 720 pixels per scanline, with 704 pixels used for content and 16 pixels on the sides left for digital blanking. The same frame size is used for 4:3 and 16:9 frame aspect ratios, resulting in different pixel aspect ratios for fullscreen and widescreen video.[3][4]

Prior to the DCT compression stage, chroma subsampling is applied to the source video in order to reduce the amount of data to be compressed. Baseline DV uses 4:1:1 subsampling in its 60 Hz variant and 4:2:0 subsampling in 50 Hz variant. Low chroma resolution of DV (compared to higher-end digital video formats) is a reason this format is sometimes avoided in chroma keying applications, though advances in chroma keying techniques and software made producing quality keys from DV material possible.[5][6]

Audio can be stored in either of two forms: 16-bit Linear PCM stereo at 48 kHz sampling rate (768 kbit/s per channel, 1.5 Mbit/s stereo), or four nonlinear 12-bit PCM channels at 32 kHz sampling rate (384 kbit/s per channel, 1.5 MBit/s for four channels). In addition, the DV specification also supports 16-bit audio at 44.1 kHz (706 kbit/s per channel, 1.4 Mbit/s stereo), the same sampling rate used for CD audio.[7] In practice, the 48 kHz stereo mode is used almost exclusively.

I have a Sony Digital8 camera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital8. A iLink (FireWire) http://www.testfreaks.co.uk/digital-camcorders/sony-dcr-trv-145/
. It has blocked the ability to Convert DV in to analog video. It is firewire "output" only but some Sony high end models allowed it.

DV and Digital8 was State of the Art on last nineties, the golden age of OS 8-9. But today noone wants to capture video. Tapeless cameras based on P2 or CF or SD or SSD media takes less time to ingest video on cutter station machines.

Also I have a Canon based on Video8. So I have over 20 tapes. I will capture that oldschool camera with a cheap 10$ USB 2.0 on OSX.
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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 07:10:39 AM »
I have a Sony Digital8 camera

Yes I had one of this too. I have used one or twice ...

MJPEG ...
DV ?
LOL

The DV format has born too limited. And in short became obsolete. Too limited in resolution and compression. And most of the dv codecs are really bad quality, including Apple ones.
Even the primitive MJPEG codec is really better than DV ...
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 07:29:46 AM »
there is dv25 dv50 and so on they all have different (higher bitrates) up to the point where the internal ide drive cant be used anymore for realtime capture/playback

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2015, 08:04:06 AM »
I have a Sony Digital8 camera

Yes I had one of this too. I have used one or twice ...

The DV format has born too limited. And in short became obsolete. Too limited in resolution and compression. And most of the dv codecs are really bad quality, including Apple ones.
Even the primitive MJPEG codec is really better than DV ...

I think your opinion is based/biased on your preference on avoiding Dual CPUs on OS9. The performance of AppleMPEG4 is legendary on duals.

Also DV do not means MiniDV, even with them both sharing DVcodec

there is dv25 dv50 and so on they all have different (higher bitrates) up to the point where the internal ide drive cant be used anymore for realtime capture/playback

DVCPRO=DV on steroids!

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DVCPRO50
DVCPRO50 compatibility mark

DVCPRO50 was introduced by Panasonic in 1997 for high-value electronic news gathering and digital cinema, and is often described as two DV-codecs working in parallel.

The DVCPRO50 doubles the coded video data rate to 50 Mbit/s. This has the effect of cutting total record time of any given storage medium in half. Chroma resolution is improved by using 4:2:2 chroma subsampling.

DVCPRO50 is used in many productions where high definition video is not required. For example, BBC used DVCPRO50 to record high-budget TV series, such as Space Race (2005) and Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire (2006).

A similar format, D-9, offered by JVC, uses videocassettes with the same form-factor as VHS.

Comparable formats include Sony's Digital Betacam, launched in 1993, and MPEG IMX, launched in 2001.

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2015, 08:22:48 AM »
I think your opinion is based/biased on your preference on avoiding Dual CPUs on OS9.

My opinion on DV is based on the fact that the introduction of the DV codec/format was an historical disaster. You better use software made prior to DV support or later when the DV format was ceased. But not DV based. Even the ancient MPEG 1 is better. I told you why.

BTW, I don't have any bias about duals on Mac Os 9. In fact I have one of the fastest, and I have tested alot of software to check the dual CPU real enhancements further than the publicity ... and that's the real issue.

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What?
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2015, 01:12:45 PM »
dont under estimate mjpg. most video cards used that codec to capture back in the days

mjpg is normally no used in a video context. it might be useful for certain materials, or when you later want to extract single frames in order to make picture files out of them, but while editing it would be a strange codec.

yet there is one application where it can make sense, and that is when you normally would like to work with uncompressed material but you dont have the CPU, HD speed, or RAM speed to do so, because you want to play a bigger sized film or because you need 2 or 4 tracks to be played in realtime.

i havent compared it, but using motion jpg with 100% quality while editing might be a good alternative to the animation codec, which tends to create evil artefacts (which you dont see instantly but only later after further editing.)

as final codec, mjpeg ist probably bullshit.

but to be honest, as almost all compression codecs present and available for OS9 today are pretty outdated, you can no longer recommend anyone to use one of them to create a final media file anyway.

the most intresting formats which the average user needs are mp4 and/or H264, where the latter soon will be outdated, too, which will mean that compressing "finals" should no longer be done on a G4 but only on OSX 10.6 and higher.

i am neither a playkid nor an "industry pro", i personally work only with uncompressed video (which is in my case, with PAl, SECAM, 400x800 and 450*900 not much bigger than DV25 would be), and compression happens in OSX, usually i always made a default quicktime container with H264, after i noticed that can cause trouble with later OSX versions, i now make .mp4 files using H264.

to come back to the topic: final cut pro is a terrible program. :)
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 01:24:01 PM »
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The DV format has born too limited. And in short became obsolete. Too limited in resolution and compression. And most of the dv codecs are really bad quality, including Apple ones.
Even the primitive MJPEG codec is really better than DV ...
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I think your opinion is based/biased on your preference on avoiding Dual CPUs on OS9. The performance of AppleMPEG4 is legendary on duals.

if you would (could!) use DV25 on a video of PAL size, you wont notice the compression involved, because such a file has uncompressed about the same size/bitrate. but if you would (could!) use DV25 on a full HD video, it would probably look like shit.

the format has ben created to stream from your firewire camera – and that is the only situation where you should use it.

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another note about realtime work ... there are not much situations where you would be ok with only one track at a time, isnt it? so everything in the range of 25 mb/sec would be faaaar too much anyway.

the following probably works well when you are programming in jitter - or with adobe after effects - but i canonly recommend to keep everything uncompressed, then create low quality/super fast compressed versions, then cut, layer, add efffects in your project, so that you can view anything in RT. then as last step replace the compressed media sources with the originals agains and render this stuff offline.

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2015, 12:28:30 PM »
So Final Cut can handle all the way up to hd even in os9. its hard to work with because of the resolution but not impossible. i tend to use my fibre network more often with all the giants because the data are there and there is literally no waiting time. response is very very fast. drawback is if there is anything to render its still host cpu time thats used and depending on what kind of rig you run its slow. but so far im very happy about the decision i made to get the fibre setup running. for final out renders i can utilize a windows rig if i have to with adobe media encoder and send it anywhere i want to right after finishing. i made a few clips about the instant daw setup including realtime installation, depending on the machine and source its fast.

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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2015, 09:11:37 PM »
hm, HD, yeah, but not in realtime. :)
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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2016, 01:26:36 AM »
Does anyone actuallt have Final Cut Pro 3.0 and could upload it somwhere?
We don't seem to have it on the garden :(

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2016, 12:33:51 PM »
i bought it a couple years ago from ebay, paid 10 bucks with free shipping. should be easy to get a boxed version with the manuals these days

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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2016, 01:20:32 PM »
You don't feel like uploading the discs to the garden? You don't have to post your serial number. It Seems very difficult to source the install media these days. Will have a look st eBay either way :)

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2016, 01:49:13 PM »
I found it (years ago) on the famous Russian Mac OS 9 torrent
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2016, 03:05:19 PM »
I found it (years ago) on the famous Russian Mac OS 9 torrent

Could you please upload it somewhere? :)

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Re: Final Cut Pro 3.0
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2016, 05:47:01 PM »
I found it (years ago) on the famous Russian Mac OS 9 torrent

Could you please upload it somewhere? :)

Excuse me, but I have run out of energy. I did uploaded twice, when I made the first post, and at a later time. Maybe next week I will try to seach again for it. It is somewhere in my 4 drives on my Hackintosh, and that machine is borrowed (without the drives) right now.


For sure it is on the russian torrent that was alive not much time ago.

About next week, I promise...
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2016, 01:07:18 AM »
No rush! I didn't know that you all ready uploaded it. Sorry for bugging you about it. Do it when you feel that you have time :)

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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2017, 11:07:02 AM »
Is there anyone that has links to download os 9 and x download for final cut pro 3.

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 02:47:32 PM »
Damn i totally forgot about that. You are not the only one who requested it. I try it this weekend,  bump this here up so i
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2017, 11:20:54 PM »
Would be totally awesome to be able to download it and put it on my G4 :)
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