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Arturia Storm
« on: November 13, 2013, 12:09:27 PM »

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec04/articles/arturiastorm3.htm

http://arturia.com/downloads/storm/storm2/
http://www.arturia.com/downloads/downloads/mac/OLD/stormdemoclassic_en.bin

^^ happened upon this demo for this old software! is december 2004 old?
my god its been nearly 8 years? o.O
apparently v3 is osx only but 2 and below seems os9 capable.

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 04:50:34 AM »
at first glance the graphics make it look similar to reason.. but by arturia!

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 06:46:04 PM »

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 02:23:36 AM »

furthermore this app is rewire2 capable..
which means it can send midi to + from host-slave
so it can allow more advanced midi communication back + forth with reason 1.0 / 2.0 / 2.5
then cubase5.1 (which is only rewire1 capable)


http://www.arturia.com/downloads/downloads/mac/OLD/stormdemoclassic_en.bin
heres the demo!! mac os 9 app..
there is a german version, french version + japanese version aswell

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/arturia-storm-15-software-review/32505
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 08:37:12 AM »
Wow... damn thing looks like "Rebirth" / "Reason" for sure...

Think I saw this listed somewhere back in the day and thought it was part of a drum library, never saw a screenshot. Stupid marketing "Storm Studio" Like "Tornado Tracks" ; fucking weather multitrack recording...  I really don't get it... like storms do damage so if you use this.... you will do cool sonic damage ?  or impact the music industry like a Storm ?  Anyway, probably would have been a hit if they called it "Pro Studio Rack... in your Mac - Engineer Version"

Box says "VST compatibility" does that mean it loads VST effects or is loadable itself as a VST plugin... (which would be one Big ass plug)

Instruments look "hardwired" so probably no VST instrument support.

We need to get this here and check it out... Arturia always seemed behind when it can to VST Instument sound quality, but this could be the best this they ever made.

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 10:04:47 AM »
i got version 3.0 last nite on a torrent, but apparently v3.0 is mac os x only... ;(

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 12:42:27 PM »
Think I saw this listed somewhere back in the day and thought it was part of a drum library, never saw a screenshot. Stupid marketing "Storm Studio" Like "Tornado Tracks" ; fucking weather multitrack recording...  I really don't get it... like storms do damage so if you use this.... you will do cool sonic damage ?  or impact the music industry like a Storm ?  Anyway, probably would have been a hit if they called it "Pro Studio Rack... in your Mac - Engineer Version"
:) LOL  :)

It is a Java runtime... so cannot be seriously taken :(

any way,  I don't have it but the demo version....
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 01:04:41 PM »
glad you found out that it is java, so i dont need to make ugly and respectless comments about this app. it is by far the .. oh no, now almost it happened.
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 01:07:19 PM »

there is also a lot of java stuff in their plug-ins, mainly that weird preset system on top.

moog modular V VST/RTAS puts like 25,000 single files in your preferences folder. one must be completly mad to organise things like that.

(i once found that out because i was wondering why i have to assign 500 mb RAM to prefs overload in order to scan. :D )
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 01:31:42 PM »

there is also a lot of java stuff in their plug-ins,

How do you know this?
There is no Java runtime code on Minimoog, Moog Modular and CS-80. May be compiled Java, but once compiled, is hard to tell if is Java, C or Pascal, and there is no problem with this.

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mainly that weird preset system on top.

moog modular V VST/RTAS puts like 25,000 single files in your preferences folder. one must be completly mad to organise things like that.

(i once found that out because i was wondering why i have to assign 500 mb RAM to prefs overload in order to scan. :D )
Totally agree... and moreover its bad sound...
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 01:41:43 PM »
Think I saw this listed somewhere back in the day and thought it was part of a drum library, never saw a screenshot. Stupid marketing "Storm Studio" Like "Tornado Tracks" ; fucking weather multitrack recording...  I really don't get it... like storms do damage so if you use this.... you will do cool sonic damage ?  or impact the music industry like a Storm ? 

none of these words were cool enough: haha:D
Arturia syllogistics was too many letters lol

http://thesaurus.com/browse/logic
http://thesaurus.com/browse/reason



i think it was made by french developers..
perhaps this makes more sense 'en francais'
lol

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 01:46:48 PM »
Box says "VST compatibility" does that mean it loads VST effects or is loadable itself as a VST plugin... (which would be one Big ass plug)

Instruments look "hardwired" so probably no VST instrument support.

i am also interested to get clarification on the "vst compatibility" i didnt even see that !!
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Reason, Live, Sonar compatibility
where does it say vst compatibility?
ok i see it now
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Cubase + Logic Audio compatibility through the VST instruments protocol
hmm perhaps each of the modules of this app can be loaded as a sperate vst directly into cubase?
thats what i would understand from this sentence?

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We need to get this here and check it out... Arturia always seemed behind when it came to VST Instument sound quality, but this could be the best this they ever made.
maybe, or maybe the listener is comparing to other vsts that are being routed thru fx (fm7 features its own internal effects) perhaps this isnt a fair comparison...in that a real engineer can make any dry sound sound great when wet with the right effects...
but i will agree that as a novice, loading up the vst without any special treatment
there are more impressive sounds to be found outside the arturia brandname

nevertheless
this arturia storm app is different from all of the other arturia software
the rest are all plugins, this app acts as a mixer application
meaning u can record sounds from rebirth or reason or live or Any rewire slave application directly into this app.. (as wave/aif im assuming?)

we need to get clarity on its vst functionality asap!!
i will try to find the manual

2001 is 13 years ago.. wow makes me feel old


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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 02:01:51 PM »
some images i was able to extract from the article that werent posted properly by the sos web developer:

sequencer


eztrack


scratch


h30 plus


arsenic


orpheus


bass52


equinoxe


kepler


compressor


flanger


reverb


ring modulation


not pictured:
tsunami, hork, meteor, psion, puma, shadow, seq filter, dual delays, distorsion, chorus
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2014, 02:04:54 PM »
hmm perhaps each of the modules of this app can be loaded as a sperate vst directly into cubase?
thats what i would understand from this sentence?
No way.

Unless you compile it and add the VST framework to them.
All are Java runtimes.
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 02:08:59 PM »
Unless you compile it and add the VST framework to them.
All are Java runtimes.

"Cubase + Logic Audio compatibility through the VST instruments protocol"
how else would you interpret this sentence? mactron? what do u think this means
it says VST instruments protocol
do u think this really means rewire?
if so why didnt they say rewire protocol?

is this so strange to think? every other product by Arturia is exactly this.. VST instrument
you would think they know how to do this by now LOL

looks like they mispelled "Through" too lol .. but they spell it correctly on the same sentence just below re: rewire
crazy frenchmen!!!

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 02:27:16 PM »
Well maybe I'm wrong at some point. But the plugins included in the Demo version -at least- cannot be used as VST plugins in no way. Drag and drop some of them over Stuffit and take a look ...
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 02:31:17 PM »
about "bad sound", well i dont know, i wouldnt call the sound itself bad ... but the CPU hunger of their synths is in no relation to the sound, thats sure.
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 02:35:46 PM »
about VST: storm comes with one "storm" VST plug-in. purpose is to send midi from other apps into storm, just like it works for tokio.

i cant tell if it works good because i dont think its worth testing :) ... but normally it is always better to use custom inter-application communication compared to OMS.
 
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 02:57:05 PM »
about VST: storm comes with one "storm" VST plug-in. purpose is to send midi from other apps into storm, just like it works for tokio.

yes ok thats what i was just about to post
i was going to say its probably one "vst instrument" plugin that acts as a bridge/gateway to port the sound from storm into cubase or logic!!
this must be it !

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 02:58:42 PM »
i cant tell if it works good because i dont think its worth testing :)

thanks for sharing this worthless opinion
considering you havent tested anything or done anything productive for this entire site regarding audio... noone was expecting you to test anything.


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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 08:55:50 AM »
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For VST operation, you also must consider the host's CPU load.Storm requires a VST host that supports multiple audio outputs.(currently only Steinberg's Cubase does so.) I testedStorm 1.5 for this review, but version 1.51, which containsseveral enhancements and bug fixes, should be out by press time.
OK... now the plot thickens...
It appears that the entire Storm app can be loaded as a VST plugin ?!  Not That is supports VST plugins as a Host, but that it runs as a plugin in a VST compatible Host...

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Arturia Storm installs from a cross-platform CD-ROM and requires run-time Java, which is supplied for the Mac and PC. (Allaudio processing is programmed in assembly language for optimal performance.)
And yes Mactron was right it is all Java runtime based...

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MIDI is handled on the PC by DirectX and on the Mac byOpen Music System
This thing is interesting... OMS support.... hmmmmmm

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Arturia Storm requires challenge-and-response authorization andautomatically takes care of that the first time you launch it if yourcomputer is online. Otherwise, Arturia Storm generates aprintout that you can mail, fax, or e-mail to Arturia for the responsecode. (Storm runs 20 times without authorization.) I had noproblems with automatic online authorization.

This could be our downfall... I hate challenge response... and for this cheap POS... what were they thinking.  Well, maybe Storm 2.0 did away with challenge response (like Cubase and other apps that moved away form it). At anyrate we have to find out if they are still genning response codes before we buy it.

Check out the review (from 2002)...
http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/arturia-storm-15-software-review/32505

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 10:11:53 AM »
diehard: i just did a qucik search and saw keygens posted for pretty mch all versions 2,3,4
etc

i dont thint the app itself loads as a vst but rather like II0 said theres a vst plugin that acts as a bridge
to port the audio into cubase or logic.. or maybe u are right im not sure what or who u are quoting here
maybe the sos article?

http://www.arturia.com/downloads/storm/storm2/
the setup file is here i think? if we can dl setup.. and get crack.  = ;)

the article u posted claims its compatible with even win95 on pc
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 10:42:08 AM »
All I am posting is above in the link I included.

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/arturia-storm-15-software-review/32505

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 11:03:56 AM »
cant find the manual for v2
but heres v3 http://www.arturia.com/downloads/manual/Storm3ENv3.pdf

totally a reason clone;)

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2014, 12:30:40 PM »
It appears that the entire Storm app can be loaded as a VST plugin ?!

not exactly loaded, but you could say "used like one". you send midi to the app, and it sends audio back to the VST plug-in.

(in case your host app does not support VST 2.1 for effects you can still use OMS)

like i said above, it is just like using tokyo.

except that it is not worth it.  -afro-
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2014, 12:49:58 PM »
except that it is not worth it.  -afro-

the same argument could be said of reason... or 90% of all plugins..
but people can still make music with it that would make u be shocked to know what it was made with
i have friends who have produced entire albums on reason that people constantly suspect being made with  real analog gear
so this largely depends on 'who is behind the steering wheel'
and what type of music they are making


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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2014, 04:02:32 AM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ff-q5E72Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ff-q5E72Q</a>
might be able to get a copy of this... trying.. ;D
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2014, 01:12:53 PM »
so.. noone was able to locate this?
im still curious!!  -afro-

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2014, 03:14:16 PM »
still hoping we can get this posted in our downloads  ;D
anyone have? i have 3.0 for osx but for os9

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2016, 10:38:40 PM »
did this program ever turn up?

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/8792-arturia-storm-1-5

https://web.archive.org/web/20031220172529/http://arturia.com:80/
https://web.archive.org/web/20030402140531/http://arturia.com:80/en/storm2.lasso
https://web.archive.org/web/20030402140531/http://arturia.com:80/en/studio.lasso
https://web.archive.org/web/20030402140531/http://arturia.com:80/en/wizards.lasso
https://web.archive.org/web/20040209115722/http://www.arturia.com:80/fr/ftvflash.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20030402140531/http://arturia.com:80/en/demos.lasso
https://web.archive.org/web/20030402003646/http://www.arturia.com:80/en/demos.lasso?-token.system=mac

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hardware configuration required to use Storm on Macintosh:

Processor G3 400 MHz or greater, with Mac OS Classic
Processor G4 500 MHz or greater with Mac OS X
128 MB of RAM minimum
At least 200 MB of available disk space
Mac OS 9.x or Mac OS X 10.1.4
On Mac OS 9.x, the Runtime for Java 2.2.5 or higher may be needed (if this Java virtual machine is not yet installed on your computer, you can download the latest version on the Apple site).
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2017, 01:02:51 AM »
Too bad Macintosh Repository has too many restrictions. Slow downloads, can't download files bigger than 300mb without an account.
Someone should upload this to Macintosh Garden instead ;)

EDIT:
Can be found here now for download: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/arturia-storm
You don't have to sign up to download and you don't need to pay (donate) to be able to download more than 1.5gb of stuff.
Like it should be.
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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2017, 08:13:18 AM »
Great Find... any chance of Finding the V2 Version ?

Either way, somebody please try this out and post results :)

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Re: Arturia Storm
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2017, 06:43:32 AM »
And who has the serial number? I'm talking about version 1.5