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MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« on: September 20, 2014, 02:58:03 AM »
http://cycling74.com/downloads/older/

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Max/MSP 4.1

Released 8/19/2002 for Mac OS 9. Not compatible with OS 10+

    Max/MSP 4.1 with documentation (14.6 MB)
    Max/MSP 4.1 software and examples only (6.1 MB)
    Max/MSP 4.1 documentation only (7.5 MB)

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Jitter for OS 9

    Jitter 1.1.1 documentation only (17.3 MB) Released 8/01/03. For Mac OS 9.
    Jitter 1.1.4 without documentation (5 MB) Released 2/22/04. For Mac OS 9.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 09:57:28 PM »
Does anyone have any advice to give as to how to get Max/MSP set up and running for OS 9? I can't seem to make sense of how the authorization process is supposed to work. Do I need to buy a license first? Does the license apply to all versions of C74 Max or just 4? If it's just 4, how much would the license actually cost these days? The Max store only has 6 and 7. Do this mean I have to pay 400 or whatever to get a piece of Software released 12 years ago?

Sorry if i'm missing the obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Max/PD are the main programs I make music in on the computer and it would be great to be able to get this running in OS9.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 02:57:09 AM »

if you are registered for v4, v5, or v6, just request an additional OS9 license from @support.

to do so, you need to send them the challenge code by mail – it is no longer possible to generate v4 licenses using the little ilok file.

in case you are not registered you might want to read your PM.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 12:40:31 PM »
theres a version of max here for download

There is? It must be hiding! I have a few versions I can offer.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 06:21:34 PM »
its version Max_3.5.4.Sea.Hqx dated 04-Jun-97 3.1M

june 1997!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2014, 01:30:43 AM »
Someone made a crack for Max/MSP 4.1 and Jitter as well (not 1.1.1. or 1.1.4 but.. 1.0).  It's hard to consider Max/MSP as an "audio plugin", maybe that's why nobody that has it reacted ;)

Anyways, yeah, you would just install m/m 4.1 and jitter 1.0 from their website and replace after with [k]ed apps.  I have both if needed. :)

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 01:08:18 AM »
i think nobody has shown reaction because it had been explained before to the OP.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 09:17:22 PM »
Hi Guys! I'm new around here, sorry for resurrecting this thread!

I need to activate MaxMsp v4.1 on my G4 Powerbook running OS 9.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2016, 03:48:19 PM »
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I am interested in this as well.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2016, 05:24:21 PM »
Sorry, but after looking in the archives, I think v3.6.2 is the highest we have

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2016, 06:11:59 PM »
http://web.archive.org/web/19980624095144/http://www.opcode.com/downloads/max/

this version kept downloads from the mid 90s up til about 1999
the highest version ever kept at this address is 3.5.9

http://web.archive.org/web/20060207020717/http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/maxmsp/

this address hosts downloads from 2005 onwards

heres an FAQ https://cycling74.com/support/faq_max4/#.V7ZcTZMrLEY
https://cycling74.com/support/faq_max4/#2

heres a 100% working link for max msp 4.1 + documentation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061012163922/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/max4msp241all.sit

additionally i have attached the 15mb or so file here to this post! (jitter is a seperate download so someone will have to find a link for jitter 1.0, this one only has v1.1.4 http://web.archive.org/web/20060206055230/http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/jitter) but it was originally released at version 1.0 b cycling 74 themselves with a hefty price tag of 850$

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Cycling '74 has released Jitter 1.0, a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment. Jitter, which provides modularity in graphics processing applications, includes "over 130 new objects for describing and manipulating matrix data -- any data that can be expressed in rows and columns, such as video and still images OpenGL-based 3D geometries, text, spreadsheet data, particle systems, voxels, or audio." It includes support for QuickTime, a set of OpenGL objects, DV camera control (as well as input and output via FireWire), and provides multiple monitor support. Upgrades are $400, while a bundle with Max, MSP, and Jitter is available for $850.


https://cycling74.com/support/faq_jitter/#.V7ZheZMrLEY
https://cycling74.com/forums/forum/jitter/#.V7Zhk5MrLEY&gsc.tab=0

apparently jitter 1.0 was released sometime in/around summer, August 2002

http://animationartist.digitalmedianet.com/article/Cycling-74-Releases-Jitter-12338

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Cycling '74 has released Jitter, a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment. Jitter provides an unprecedented level of modularity in graphics processing applications. It includes over 130 new objects for describing and manipulating matrix data -- any data that can be expressed in rows and columns, such as video and still images OpenGL-based 3D geometries, text, spreadsheet data, particle systems, voxels, or audio.

Jitter will be useful to anyone interested in real-time and interactive video/3D graphics, data visualization, custom video effects creation, video rendering, and numerous classroom applications, and will dramatically expand the possibilities for Max/MSP owners.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2016, 06:38:13 PM »
heres some more info but i still cant find the v1.0 installer

jitter 1.0 original release date:
released 19 August 2002

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Jitter 1.0 is a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment and is now available. Click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20021017111224/http://www.cycling74.com/products/jitter.html) to read about Jitter, and then click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20021003084235/http://www.cycling74.com/products/dljitter.html) to download and try out Jitter.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021002231934/http://www.cycling74.com/index.html

os9 tutorial: http://web.archive.org/web/20051224211551/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/Jitter_OS9_Tutorial.sit

two download links + File names originally provided were:
http://www.synthesisters.com/download/jitter10all.sit
http://www.expr-i0.net/cycling74/jitter10all.sit

original manual pdf:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040723155020/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/JitterManual.pdf

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Jitter 1.0 requirements:

A PowerPC MacOS computer with OS 9.x.
At least 64 MB of RAM.
A G3/300 or higher with an OpenGL hardware-accelerated video card is recommended.
Max/MSP 4.0.9 or higher installed on your system (note that Jitter will work in demo mode with a demo installation of Max/MSP -- you may try both at the same time).
QuickTime 4.0 or later installed on your system.
OpenGL 1.2 or later installed on your system.
At present, Jitter (and Max/MSP) is only available for Macintosh OS 9.x systems -- a port of Max/MSP to OS X and the Windows operating system is in development, and Jitter will be released for these platforms following the OS X and Windows releases of Max/MSP.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2016, 09:11:08 PM »
I have the demo of 4.1 from the cycling74 site which is running on my Emac.  I am after  the files miracman mentioned earlier in the thread.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2016, 05:27:32 AM »
this is what i use. the patch resets the demo clock, for 4.1 only afaik. you can reset it at any time.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2016, 03:39:23 PM »
Thanks Dr Bu,  I'll give that a trt

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2016, 04:37:07 PM »
there was a ilok destroyer post already stickied in this section
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2784.0.html

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 10:10:06 PM »
I am not sure this Max Msp 4.1 is using ilok.  It has a challenge response dialog.


Ive tried the ilok reset scripts but they cant find HFSExtentTables and didn't restart the Max demo.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2016, 06:52:17 AM »
Ive tried the ilok reset scripts but they cant find HFSExtentTables and didn't restart the Max demo.
i dont know why that is. if you have some real ilok authorisations, that might cause problems.
there is a "registrationnumber" you have to copy from the startscreen first time you use it. then choose "zap authorizations".
 
not 100%, but i dont think the link geforceg4 posted is relevant.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 07:36:04 AM by dr bu »
knowledge is interesting

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2016, 04:25:05 PM »
Thanks dr du,  I had thought what you posted was the same as the ilok.  I gave the interlock destroyer a go and it worked.  Happy!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 06:15:03 AM »

not 100%, but i dont think the link geforceg4 posted is relevant.

how is it not relevant.. he was asking how to reset the demo on the Max/MSP 4.1 program.
is it not the same for any + every program demo that uses ilok ?
i simply did a search on the site here for ilok + found that thread written by mactron

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 12:11:58 PM »
ok. sorry about that. i meant to say: i think mactrons tread is about something else...
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 01:42:42 PM »
no problem;)
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but yea, im not sure 100% ive personally never used an ilok resetter/destroyer yet

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2017, 12:13:36 AM »
I am a long time user of max, I started in 2000 with OS9.
I could write them to get a license in no time, but I'm using SheepShaver to emulate OS9 on a Raspberry and no emulator have SCSI or IDE simulation so the challenge response thing won't work.
so I must ask if somebody still has a 4.1 cracked to help me.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2017, 12:27:19 PM »
ahoy tobor, if you are registered for 4.x or later (i know you are) then pls send me a PM with your email adress.

though i am afraid that it still wont work with our "solution". maybe you can fake the required HFS+ path for the CP in sheepshaver somehow? it would be your only chance. (SATA/SAS should not be a problem, but no HFS+ could be one)

otherwise, dont forget that there is a free runtime too, which at least would let you run stuff on such "unsupported machines". :)
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2017, 12:28:40 PM »
btw i just got a new mini and a new xserve - and i hope that they will never stop generating responses for 4.x ... i will probably want to use it for the next 20 years.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2018, 07:59:35 PM »
Eye found Max/Msp archive from "Berkley" when lived in SF hills looking over "Twin Peaks"
given to to me by Professor there packed with Max 4.0.5/Pluggo/Video In working [k]
huge collection of patches/3rd party objects/tutorials on that disk
also have working [k] of 3.5

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2018, 09:30:53 PM »
threw some various content in this archive for Max4
maybe someone can use somethings in here:
http://www.n01ze.com/synthwizards/ARKIVE/Max4Objects.sit

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2018, 10:10:16 PM »

Thanks for making me start digging into those old archives...
MAX 4 now functional on 7100/G3/442
Generating strange noises into my master rack :)
have bunch of MAX/MSP apps
will take some time sorting through it all for stuffit archiving correctly
Abstraction is included in the above posed file
here Abstraction is also at Mac Repository
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/8077-max-msp-externals-and-abstractions-collection-macos9-v-1-0-
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2018, 03:37:44 AM »
not sure why ben added a free osx runtime with this, but i guess it doesnt matter, people who download it will know how to correctly use them. :)
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2018, 11:22:20 AM »
Do you want me archiving MAX/MSP v4 projects/applications on Forum?
they need being sorted and stuffed on one of my macs first
this would be ideal doing on Summer 2001 G3 Imac
if the "Slot loading cookie monster" would actually eject CDs
without me having to take he case apart
ummm have another OSX Imac somewhere around here buried in BOX
yet we are always fighting "SpaceWar" because of my Gear addiction
give me some time will make somethings happen
Anyone have any clue about mac drivers for Microtech usb scsi db25?


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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2018, 11:53:03 AM »
i think i miss some older nato apps and some of the ircam summer workshop and similar things. my collection of max stuff is pretty chaotic (unlike other parts of the collection) but maybe we can swap a list of filenames for now. i dont think weŽll put it on the forums but there are some other users and collectors here. if you only have one small file which i didnt have before it would be worth it. :)

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2018, 10:27:21 AM »
Do you want me archiving MAX/MSP v4 projects/applications on Forum?
they need being sorted and stuffed

speaking only for myself, not the forum at large, i think it is absolutely ESSENTIAL that this kind of material is archived!  if you can stuff a collection, PLEASE upload it to archive.org or the macintoshgarden - somewhere that it can be found in the future.  thanks!

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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2018, 10:33:35 AM »
i think i miss some older nato apps and some of the ircam summer workshop and similar things. my collection of max stuff is pretty chaotic

this would be great too!  i havent been able to find any nato stuff online (was it scrubbed back in the day because of the legal issues with cycling74?).  it appears that many places (like ircam or the west coast schools in the u.s.) no longer host EM software or patches older than a few years, and their sites are littered with broken links etc.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2018, 11:18:34 AM »
have some nato stuff in 4.3 collection
jumping through some hurdles before can start that "project"
600+mb of 4.3 data that needs being stuffed in small chunks
fighting for Diskspace on multiple PowerMac machines bouncing/stuffing max files
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2018, 09:45:07 PM »
Starting project of archiving packed MAX/MSP disk
some folders and items don't read on MacDrive
so stuffing on Summer 2001 Imac DVD
using external Cd drive(slot is bjorked)
then will transfer for upload using USB stick
most likely in sections relating to folders
thousands of files
my up speed sux so for sake of getting this archived
doing it in smaller sit files instead of 1 disk image
will start uploading for my server
then you can archive them wherever so inclined
most likely some of you will have clue
what some of these files are on this fully packed disk

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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2018, 08:37:22 AM »
this would be great too!

sorting through this will take a while, it is spread over hundreds of CDs/CDimages.

next i have to do is an upgrade to the externals collection, then a "mirror" of the OS9 externals for all other major systems (UB or PPC for max4, then for max >=6 mac32, mac64, win32, win64), then my own abstractions, then my collections of photoshop and AE plug-ins.

we are 6 or 7 max users here now and we should share this privately one day. i am willing to sort through yours collections as well and merge it all into one.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2018, 08:44:47 AM »
have some nato stuff in 4.3 collection
jumping through some hurdles before can start that "project"
600+mb of 4.3 data that needs being stuffed in small chunks

eventually it is easier to make a toast image. i am willing to sort later.

best of rebekahs "apps" were in html and pdf format - they are lost forever. i will always remember that moment when my IE browser started drawing shapes outside the browser window. i immediately knew that i will follow this path. :=)
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2018, 09:20:55 AM »
stayed up super late/early copying/sorting/stuffing all disk contents using ImacG3
will upload for my server when get some time potentially today
then you can have DL link access for file
it includes installers/max projects/max apps/max tutorials/documentation/3rd party objects/externals
so on so forth

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2018, 12:04:18 PM »
http://www.n01ze.com/synthwizards/ARKIVE/MAX_MSP_STUFF.sit
archive file as promised.. 280mb+ includes v4.0.5 installers & [k] all other files should work with v4.3
grab it before it goes ~poof~
can someone test it?
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2018, 12:52:42 PM »
holy crap, when you refresh the page in classilla the download breaks up. i know why i normally dont use 9 for the net. :)
trying again in windows.
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2018, 12:57:56 PM »
hehe, it is eight times faster from here:)
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2018, 05:14:09 AM »
..are you aware of the fact that externals written for OSX wont work in OS9?
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2018, 08:51:28 AM »

there are externals for os9 & osx in that archive?
if so could explain some things
http://cnmat.org/MAX/OS9.html
http://www.maxobjects.com/?request=%s&operateur=&id_plateforme=2&id_format=&start=3555&Submit=OK
2001/2002 most people were still using Classic OS
have been boycotting Mac since they started pushing OSx
purposely killing Mac classic
~shrug~
is anything in that archive worthwhile for you?
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/8077-max-msp-externals-and-abstractions-collection-macos9-v-1-0-
personally making myself relearn classic on 3 machines
purposely aware of how "retrograde" that seems/is
feel like wasting so much time on all of this
my objective for "messing" with MAX/MSP again is
remembering some completely forgotten things/methods
that can be "evolved" & utilized
in making new personal sound design tools
such as camel toe & some of Karlheinz Essl's creations
(saw/heard/met interacted w/him ages ago at some tiny loft called "DeadTech")
http://www.essl.at/software.html
so would have to admit he was inspiration
been into generative composition again recently
should probably email him directly in Deutsch
anyways...
have 3 "Classic" machines somewhat stable again now
some little tweaks that may want attempting
(such as having Cubase recording/editing midi)
my original idea was having Mac "catch" midi & audio from some of my generators/sequencers
and/or synchronize with my main system
not in any desperate bind for gear
want giving the old Mac some well deserved appreciation/energy/respect


better get busy recording
uhmm my 7100 makes for good DrumStation for my sprawling acoustic Kit
so have been using it for recording drums
then bounce recordings from XLR 442

need switching some gears soon so can get more productive

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2018, 10:36:04 AM »

well, everything in that externals folder are binaries for OSX. you must have been using that in OSX but forgot about it. (and btw thee help file folder ends at letter a-i?)

havent found something "new" yet, but regarding apps i must confess that i have no idea which i might have or not. when they were state of the art, i might have ignored those which i rated "useless".

if you are into composition you should get a copy of my old sequencer some day. but for a stable clock and audio DSP at the same time i strongly recommend a G4 processor. for proper GUI feedback a latest generation video card such as GF4 shouldl also be in play.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2018, 11:50:29 AM »
prefer sequencers "midi only" and/or Control Voltage Gate
have had some problems in the past with host clock glitch errors
took me long time resolving
this place seems having good collection of "objects"
http://www.maxobjects.com/?request=%s&operateur=&id_plateforme=2&id_format=&start=3555&Submit=OK
haven't started digging through his collection as of yet
want actually getting back in create record/edit/mutate/compose mode
do you have link page for your sequencer?

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2018, 12:22:42 PM »
maxobjects is not really supported by developers / patchers, myself included, but it can be helpful to at least find stuff via archive.org. the externals should all be in my collection (a few to come with the next update)
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2018, 04:12:01 PM »
haven't touched any of this in years since 2002ish
MAX/MSP is all blur anymore honestly
fortunate that the machines even powered up
had to hack/solder floppy ribbon cable yesterday for getting that drive working in 7600
looked like a mutant subway rat had taken bite out of that ribbon cable
3 classic machines now "operational"
suppose next step is get them back on appletalk network
probably grab minimac as main Mac file server
thanks for input