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MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« on: September 20, 2014, 02:58:03 AM »
http://cycling74.com/downloads/older/

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Max/MSP 4.1

Released 8/19/2002 for Mac OS 9. Not compatible with OS 10+

    Max/MSP 4.1 with documentation (14.6 MB)
    Max/MSP 4.1 software and examples only (6.1 MB)
    Max/MSP 4.1 documentation only (7.5 MB)

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Jitter for OS 9

    Jitter 1.1.1 documentation only (17.3 MB) Released 8/01/03. For Mac OS 9.
    Jitter 1.1.4 without documentation (5 MB) Released 2/22/04. For Mac OS 9.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 09:57:28 PM »
Does anyone have any advice to give as to how to get Max/MSP set up and running for OS 9? I can't seem to make sense of how the authorization process is supposed to work. Do I need to buy a license first? Does the license apply to all versions of C74 Max or just 4? If it's just 4, how much would the license actually cost these days? The Max store only has 6 and 7. Do this mean I have to pay 400 or whatever to get a piece of Software released 12 years ago?

Sorry if i'm missing the obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Max/PD are the main programs I make music in on the computer and it would be great to be able to get this running in OS9.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 02:57:09 AM »

if you are registered for v4, v5, or v6, just request an additional OS9 license from @support.

to do so, you need to send them the challenge code by mail it is no longer possible to generate v4 licenses using the little ilok file.

in case you are not registered you might want to read your PM.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 12:40:31 PM »
theres a version of max here for download

There is? It must be hiding! I have a few versions I can offer.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 06:21:34 PM »
its version Max_3.5.4.Sea.Hqx dated 04-Jun-97 3.1M

june 1997!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2014, 01:30:43 AM »
Someone made a crack for Max/MSP 4.1 and Jitter as well (not 1.1.1. or 1.1.4 but.. 1.0).  It's hard to consider Max/MSP as an "audio plugin", maybe that's why nobody that has it reacted ;)

Anyways, yeah, you would just install m/m 4.1 and jitter 1.0 from their website and replace after with [k]ed apps.  I have both if needed. :)

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 01:08:18 AM »
i think nobody has shown reaction because it had been explained before to the OP.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 09:17:22 PM »
Hi Guys! I'm new around here, sorry for resurrecting this thread!

I need to activate MaxMsp v4.1 on my G4 Powerbook running OS 9.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2016, 03:48:19 PM »
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I am interested in this as well.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2016, 05:24:21 PM »
Sorry, but after looking in the archives, I think v3.6.2 is the highest we have

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2016, 06:11:59 PM »
http://web.archive.org/web/19980624095144/http://www.opcode.com/downloads/max/

this version kept downloads from the mid 90s up til about 1999
the highest version ever kept at this address is 3.5.9

http://web.archive.org/web/20060207020717/http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/maxmsp/

this address hosts downloads from 2005 onwards

heres an FAQ https://cycling74.com/support/faq_max4/#.V7ZcTZMrLEY
https://cycling74.com/support/faq_max4/#2

heres a 100% working link for max msp 4.1 + documentation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061012163922/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/max4msp241all.sit

additionally i have attached the 15mb or so file here to this post! (jitter is a seperate download so someone will have to find a link for jitter 1.0, this one only has v1.1.4 http://web.archive.org/web/20060206055230/http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/jitter) but it was originally released at version 1.0 b cycling 74 themselves with a hefty price tag of 850$

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Cycling '74 has released Jitter 1.0, a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment. Jitter, which provides modularity in graphics processing applications, includes "over 130 new objects for describing and manipulating matrix data -- any data that can be expressed in rows and columns, such as video and still images OpenGL-based 3D geometries, text, spreadsheet data, particle systems, voxels, or audio." It includes support for QuickTime, a set of OpenGL objects, DV camera control (as well as input and output via FireWire), and provides multiple monitor support. Upgrades are $400, while a bundle with Max, MSP, and Jitter is available for $850.


https://cycling74.com/support/faq_jitter/#.V7ZheZMrLEY
https://cycling74.com/forums/forum/jitter/#.V7Zhk5MrLEY&gsc.tab=0

apparently jitter 1.0 was released sometime in/around summer, August 2002

http://animationartist.digitalmedianet.com/article/Cycling-74-Releases-Jitter-12338

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Cycling '74 has released Jitter, a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment. Jitter provides an unprecedented level of modularity in graphics processing applications. It includes over 130 new objects for describing and manipulating matrix data -- any data that can be expressed in rows and columns, such as video and still images OpenGL-based 3D geometries, text, spreadsheet data, particle systems, voxels, or audio.

Jitter will be useful to anyone interested in real-time and interactive video/3D graphics, data visualization, custom video effects creation, video rendering, and numerous classroom applications, and will dramatically expand the possibilities for Max/MSP owners.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2016, 06:35:46 PM by geforceg4 »

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2016, 06:38:13 PM »
heres some more info but i still cant find the v1.0 installer

jitter 1.0 original release date:
released 19 August 2002

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Jitter 1.0 is a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment and is now available. Click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20021017111224/http://www.cycling74.com/products/jitter.html) to read about Jitter, and then click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20021003084235/http://www.cycling74.com/products/dljitter.html) to download and try out Jitter.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021002231934/http://www.cycling74.com/index.html

os9 tutorial: http://web.archive.org/web/20051224211551/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/Jitter_OS9_Tutorial.sit

two download links + File names originally provided were:
http://www.synthesisters.com/download/jitter10all.sit
http://www.expr-i0.net/cycling74/jitter10all.sit

original manual pdf:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040723155020/http://www.synthesisters.com/download/JitterManual.pdf

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Jitter 1.0 requirements:

A PowerPC MacOS computer with OS 9.x.
At least 64 MB of RAM.
A G3/300 or higher with an OpenGL hardware-accelerated video card is recommended.
Max/MSP 4.0.9 or higher installed on your system (note that Jitter will work in demo mode with a demo installation of Max/MSP -- you may try both at the same time).
QuickTime 4.0 or later installed on your system.
OpenGL 1.2 or later installed on your system.
At present, Jitter (and Max/MSP) is only available for Macintosh OS 9.x systems -- a port of Max/MSP to OS X and the Windows operating system is in development, and Jitter will be released for these platforms following the OS X and Windows releases of Max/MSP.
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2016, 09:11:08 PM »
I have the demo of 4.1 from the cycling74 site which is running on my Emac.  I am after  the files miracman mentioned earlier in the thread.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2016, 05:27:32 AM »
this is what i use. the patch resets the demo clock, for 4.1 only afaik. you can reset it at any time.
lookin for original M-audio audiophile 2496 drivers (ver 1.x)!!

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"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2016, 03:39:23 PM »
Thanks Dr Bu,  I'll give that a trt

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2016, 04:37:07 PM »
there was a ilok destroyer post already stickied in this section
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2784.0.html

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 10:10:06 PM »
I am not sure this Max Msp 4.1 is using ilok.  It has a challenge response dialog.


Ive tried the ilok reset scripts but they cant find HFSExtentTables and didn't restart the Max demo.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2016, 06:52:17 AM »
Ive tried the ilok reset scripts but they cant find HFSExtentTables and didn't restart the Max demo.
i dont know why that is. if you have some real ilok authorisations, that might cause problems.
there is a "registrationnumber" you have to copy from the startscreen first time you use it. then choose "zap authorizations".
 
not 100%, but i dont think the link geforceg4 posted is relevant.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 07:36:04 AM by dr bu »
lookin for original M-audio audiophile 2496 drivers (ver 1.x)!!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2016, 04:25:05 PM »
Thanks dr du,  I had thought what you posted was the same as the ilok.  I gave the interlock destroyer a go and it worked.  Happy!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 06:15:03 AM »

not 100%, but i dont think the link geforceg4 posted is relevant.

how is it not relevant.. he was asking how to reset the demo on the Max/MSP 4.1 program.
is it not the same for any + every program demo that uses ilok ?
i simply did a search on the site here for ilok + found that thread written by mactron

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 12:11:58 PM »
ok. sorry about that. i meant to say: i think mactrons tread is about something else...
lookin for original M-audio audiophile 2496 drivers (ver 1.x)!!

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 01:42:42 PM »
no problem;)
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but yea, im not sure 100% ive personally never used an ilok resetter/destroyer yet

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2017, 12:13:36 AM »
I am a long time user of max, I started in 2000 with OS9.
I could write them to get a license in no time, but I'm using SheepShaver to emulate OS9 on a Raspberry and no emulator have SCSI or IDE simulation so the challenge response thing won't work.
so I must ask if somebody still has a 4.1 cracked to help me.

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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2017, 12:27:19 PM »
ahoy tobor, if you are registered for 4.x or later (i know you are) then pls send me a PM with your email adress.

though i am afraid that it still wont work with our "solution". maybe you can fake the required HFS+ path for the CP in sheepshaver somehow? it would be your only chance. (SATA/SAS should not be a problem, but no HFS+ could be one)

otherwise, dont forget that there is a free runtime too, which at least would let you run stuff on such "unsupported machines". :)
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Re: MAX/MSP 4.1 & Jitter
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2017, 12:28:40 PM »
btw i just got a new mini and a new xserve - and i hope that they will never stop generating responses for 4.x ... i will probably want to use it for the next 20 years.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com