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« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2014, 12:21:29 PM »
So I guess there's an error on my drive or something. Hmm...

MacTron, are you cloning an IDE or a SATA drive?

one other thing i read is that there isnt a checksum check if the file system is mac os standard (HFS) rather then HFS+
maybe u could try that when making your new clone syntho.. format the drive as HFS mac os standard

if u want to see the stuff i read i believe its in the asr 1.3.2 documentation (from mactrons folder)
i think it was the pdf file + search for checksum

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The ImageScan Scripting Addition can optionally perform a volume verification scan when scanning a disk image. This scan is the same as running Disk First Aid on the mounted disk image volume. This is turned on by default in the example AppleScripts.
-ImageScan and ASR 1.3.2 support block checksumming when restoring an HFS+ formatted image.
not sure what this means
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 01:57:40 PM by chrisNova777 »

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« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2014, 01:24:37 PM »
what about finding the final version of some developer cd for mac os 9?
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603203947/http://www.delta.edu/~dgschmid/asr.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20010824081636/http://www.ctap.fcoe.k12.ca.us/ctap/restore.htm

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Ten simple steps:

        Defrag the hard drive, if you have the tools and time to do it. This will make your image smaller. Check the hard drive for errors using the latest Disk First Aid. Don't use Norton; Norton takes too #*@& long, and if Disk First Aid can't fix it, you're better off reformatting the drive.

        Obtain the latest version of Disk Copy. Open it up and unclick the following options in the preferences: "Zero Blocks", "Mount Afterward" and "Verify Checksum". (Yes, "Verify Checksum". Trust me.)

        Drag the hard drive to Disk Copy. Select "Read Only" or "Read Only Compressed." Keep in mind that "Read Only Compressed" will take a long time. If the image is going to be too big, see my tips and tricks below.

        Did I mention that you need a copy of ASR? I'm sorry, but this is the only legal link for it that I know of, and it's a huge download. Download it from the Apple FTP site. ASR is located in this package.

        Download my extras. Don't worry; they're small. Open up the "Scripts" folder in ASR. Drag the 2 applescripting extensions to the System Folder. (Which should put them in the Scripting Additions folder.) **** missing ;( *****

        Run Dan's (modified) ASR script. (Click on it, and then click "Run".) It'll verify the image first, then a dialog box will come up stating that it's OK. (Then click "OK," of course.) The rest will take a long time, and it'll look like your computer is stuck in a loop, but it will not take as long as the real ASR script takes, and it won't timeout. When it's done, you'll hear the happy chimes. If you are out of the room, that's fine, the happy chimes don't care. If you get stuck on this step, see the tips and tricks listed below.

        Put ASR in the same folder as the image and launch it. Do not put Dan's ASR prefs file in the folder or in the prefs folder yet. Keep Dan's prefs far away from ASR at this point. Launch ASR. Click "OK" at the startup screen and then look at the bottom of the window for a message. If this message says anything except "this image has a missing or outdated checksum resource" then we are good to go. If it does say this, mutter some obscenities, making sure no management or students are around, and then try again (or see my tips and tricks below).

        Be prepared. ASR will erase your hard drive, so you will need to boot from some other media, and you will need to have access to the image. You can boot from a CD and throw the image on a server or a zip for instance. Or another partition of the drive.

        Put Dan's ASR pref in the same folder as your image. This makes ASR totally automatic. Now launch ASR. Instead of coming up with the dialog, it will automatically erase the hard drive, restore from the image, and shut the computer down when it's done. Pretty slick, huh? One double click and it does the rest of the work for you.

        Set final settings. For instance, each machine should have a different machine name. Also, I don't think ASR sets the hard drive name, which should be set to the original name from the image on all the computers. You will have to go to each machine and do this. (This cannot be controlled by ASR.)

this page lists the filename as:
ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK/Installer_SDK_1.2.3.sea.bin
http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/ftp.it.xemacs.org/%7BB/Apple/developer/Development_Kits/
ftp://ftp.it.xemacs.org/%7BB/Apple/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK/Installer_SDK_1.2.3.sea.bin ***
http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/ftp.it.xemacs.org/%7BB/Apple/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK/Installer_SDK_1.2.4/macbinary-segments

FUCK! fucking web.archive.org didnt index his file of modified scripts
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603203947/http://www.delta.edu/~dgschmid/asr.hqx
dead link;((

he says that ASR is inside this sdk file but i couldnt see it checking jus tnow.. i wonder what version it is
ok i found it. its the same version . v1.3.2 but with slightly more support files + scripts
i didnt check this other 1.2.4 sdk file tho .. maybe it has a later version of ASR
ok its dated january 2001 ..ugh acutally thats ALOT BETTER then the 1.2.3 one which contains 1.3.2. ITS FROM  1998!!!!!!

heres one from march 2001
ftp://ftp.it.xemacs.org/%7BB/Apple/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK_1.2.sit.hqx
ok its not from march 2001 its from august 1998. the 1.2.3 one is from dec 1998
see dates here: http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/ftp.it.xemacs.org/%7BB/Apple/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK/macbinary-segments they are correct
someone has to check the multisegment 1.24 macbinarys

heres a faster dl location: http://staticky.com/dl/ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/Installer_SDK/Installer_SDK_1.2.4/macbinary-segments/
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 02:15:25 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2014, 01:52:45 PM »
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Run Apple's Disk Tools on the hard drive to be cloned (^ before creating the image), and ensure there are no errors. If there are, you will still be able make the image, but the "Scan Image for ASR..." step will fail. I cannot stress this point enough. It doesn't matter if your disk utility came up clean, you still should run Disk Tools. Trust me, this cost me over two days once playing the "why won't this work?" game.


i think he mean to say norton disktools because he references it higher up in his page
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(Optional) MacOS disk tools, such as Norton Utilities for MacOS. -- http://www.madriver.k12.oh.us/technology/whitepapers/asr/

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2014, 02:00:15 PM »
This method works great, however there are a couple issues:

1) The allocation of memory to each program will need to be re-done every time you restore an image since all of them are lost.

2) The Digital Performer authorization is not copied over and must be reinstalled/authorized.

Unisyn also gave me a Bomb upon starting it, but after restarting it worked (it might've just been a fluke). I'm unsure if the authorization is stored on my SCSI HD (which I did NOT erase/format) or if it's stored on any drive that you installed it on. We went over that already, so since there's some confusion I'll have to let everyone else test it on their non-SCSI Macs.

If I remember correctly, there's an invisible file that I was able to see when I used Greg's Browser. I believe there was a file called something like, "PerformerAuthorization" or something. Maybe I'm wrong.

But it doesn't matter if this isn't working 100%. This just saved me a LOT of time. I don't mind allocating memory and reinstalling Performer.

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2014, 02:03:49 PM »
So I guess there's an error on my drive or something. Hmm...

MacTron, are you cloning an IDE or a SATA drive?

one other thing i read is that there isnt a checksum check if the file system is mac os standard (HFS) rather then HFS+
maybe u could try that when making your new clone syntho.. format the drive as HFS mac os standard

if u want to see the stuff i read i believe its in the asr 1.3.2 documentation (from mactrons folder)
i think it was the pdf file + search for checksum

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The ImageScan Scripting Addition can optionally perform a volume verification scan when scanning a disk image. This scan is the same as running Disk First Aid on the mounted disk image volume. This is turned on by default in the example AppleScripts.
-ImageScan and ASR 1.3.2 support block checksumming when restoring an HFS+ formatted image.
not sure what this means

I just did the above post on an Extended volume with OS8.6. The partition that gave me most trouble was System 7 which only takes a Standard volume and I'm gonna test that tonight. Keep in mind that I don't think the problem was either Disk Copy or ASR, it was just a bad HD or some shit. I wonder if it's going to be possible if there is no checksum check. I'm not even sure when that occurs as far as ASR and how that would affect a restore. We shall see if it works... be back in a few hours.

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2014, 02:24:04 PM »
This method works great, however there are a couple issues:

1) The allocation of memory to each program will need to be re-done every time you restore an image since all of them are lost.

It is weird. I never had this issue...
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« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2014, 02:26:00 PM »
disregard this 1.2.4 developer kit.. it still has 1.3.2 version of ASR from 1998.....  even though its from jan 2001 >:(

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« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2014, 02:30:17 PM »
i read that theres 1 checksum test when using mac os standard filesystem
and 2 when using hfs+...
but u can skip them both by res-edit the prefs file for ASR.. (thats what the documentation says)
anyways im DONE on this topic for the day. phew

ok maybe not yet
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/9286/automate-asr
this app is said to have ASR inside it. maybe theres a version with 2.2.5inside

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With the advent of ASR 2.x, it is more capable of other methods of restoring, but the old ASR Prefs file won't work with it.
 
u see mactron the new asr 2.x doesnt see the old prefs file.. we NEED a complete package of 2.x ASR and then this would be working 100% with no problems !!!!!!!!!!!!!! but here we have a possibly solution to work with 2.2.4 aswell.. using this script "Config ASR script"

this asr version is dated june 2002
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Automate ASR  1.0
From Your Friends at Really Early Morning Software
http://homepage.mac.com/remsoftware/index.html

Automate ASR is a very advanced replacement to implementation of automatic restorations using Apple Software Restore.  Apple provied a mediocre way to do implementations in ASR 1.x by editing the Standard ASR Preferences file with ResEdit.  Crude and limited, but it worked.  With the advent of ASR 2.x, it is more capable of other methods of restoring, but the old ASR Prefs file won’t work with it.  So, now what?  AppleScript to the rescue!

History
This project started as an assignment for me (a Mac techie) for the Mac Lab at my school.  We use Apple Software Restore on a regular basis to image entire labs.  ASR 1.x is outdated and can’t do quite as much as the newer versions of ASR.  We had always used the prefs file to fully automate it, so when we wanted to switch to ASR 2.x, we needed a new way.  So I started writing this script, and the only thing it started off being able to do was restoring a single image to the internal hard drive.  Then we had the problem with multiple images and with multiple drives present.  Along came the option to deal with those situations.

It stopped there for a while when I came across a big problem and had to find a solution (don’t ever have file sharing turned on on the image file!  BAD idea!).  I had written to the Mac-Managers list to get this problem solved, and afterwards I had scores of people asking me for a copy of my script.  Originally, I was just going to tell these people to edit the ASR script to fit their needs, but some of them had no AppleScripting knowledge.  Along came the Config ASR script to setup all the options you need to automate the restoration.  My hope is that this set of scripts will ease the pain of imaging for lab administrators like me.

Overview
This archive contains:
ASR script — the actual restoration script.
Config ASR script — the script to setup your restoration preferences.
Apple Software Restore application — You should know what this is!  Version 2.1.2 is included to ensure compatibility.
Configurations folder — A prenamed empty folder for your disk images.
All of these files must reside in the same directory at all times!

When you first start your setup, run the Config ASR script.  This allows you to setup the various options for the restore process.  To restore a drive, run the ASR script.  These files must always stay in the same folder, because they rely on themselves for the preferences and they are setup so they look for themselves in the same directory.  The ASR application and the Configurations folder must also be in this same directory.  If you are running the restore from a CD or other locked volume, make sure to run the Config ASR script before burning the CD.  You cannot change the preferences if you are running from a locked volume.

Your restoration disk MUST be setup this way:
--
Restore CD [this name doesn't matter]
Apple Software Restore [application—use version 2.1.2 to ensure compatibility]
ASR [the main script]
ASR Config [the configuration script—VERY important!]
Configurations [folder]
[at least 1 valid ASR image inside]
System Folder* [valid system folder, OS 9 or later recommended, maybe even required.  I dunno.  Try it out and let me know.]
[must contain all AppleScript extensions and standard additions file]
Utilities [folder]
[put things like Drive Setup, Disk First Aid, Script Editor, etc. in here.  Not required, but you'll thank yourself later.   Also include an appropriate disk security unlocker if needed.]
--
*The scripts do not necessarily have to be run off the same disk as the startup disk.  Just make sure that whatever system folder is currently active has the appropriate files.

Put an alias to the ASR script in the disk's startup items folder for 100% automation if that is your intent.

If there is more than one script in the configurations folder, the ASR script will ask you which to use for the restore.  If there is more than one mounted volume whose name is not in the ignored volumes list, it will ask which volume to restore.

The ASR script must be run from the Finder, not Script Editor, unless you move all the files into the same folder as script editor...

The scripts are editable for informational/educational reasons and to let you make more customized preferences.  They are commented to help you.

This does not do anything to help you make segmented images.  The way Apple did segmented images is with .dmgpart files, which can (hopefully) be made with Disk Copy 6.5 (now in beta).  Currently there isn't really a way to make these for the end user...

This doesn't help at all with the 2GB limit.  There is no workaround for that (due to limitations in the Mac OS file systems and the fact that Disk Copy has not been updated to work with bigger files).  Sorry!

System Requirements
A Macintosh with AppleScript installed.
Either the Standard Additions or Display Dialog scripting addition (included with various versions of AppleScript).
Apple Software Restore, version 2.1.2 recommended (included)
Recommended:
AppleScript version 1.4.3 or later (Requires MacOS 9.0).
A version of AppleScript that includes the Standard Additions scripting addition.
NOTE:  These scripts were written with AppleScript 1.6.  They may not work with earlier versions of AppleScript.  I haven’t taken the time to test these scripts out with previous Mac OS versions.  I highly recommend OS 9 or higher.  I cannot guarantee compatibility with any other OS version.  If you cannot get the Config ASR and ASR scripts to negotiate their settings, you may be able to work around this by merging the applications into one.

Contact Info
Want to contact the author?  I accept bug reports, suggestions for improvements, etc.  If you would like any sort of AppleScript written for you (personally), e-mail me with your idea, and we will negotiate payment.  If you are looking for help creating your own AppleScripts, please visit Apple’s web site at http://www.apple.com/applescript/ .  That site has been very helpful to me, especially the AppleScript Language Guide.

If you wish to distribute these scripts, this Read Me must be included.  If you wish to include any or all parts of this on a CD or any other item with relatively wide distribution, please send me a note of your doing so.  I would also appreciate a copy of what is being distributed and/or a donation.  Thank you for your support!

Email: remsoftware@mac.com
Website:    http://homepage.mac.com/remsoftware/index.html

Version History
**This Read Me file was updated 6/11/02**
11/22/01 1.0   (ASR 1.2.2/Config ASR 1.1.2) Initial Public release [as for the high versions on the individual scripts, it’s because of the previous versions I did at school]

Disclaimer
The AppleScripts accompanying this Read Me are provided “as is.”  I have made a reasonable effort to make sure that they won’t do any damage, however I cannot provide any guarantees.  By running these programs, you assume all risk for any damage that may occur.  If these scripts damage your files, cause you to run around in circles screaming like a monkey out of hell, magnetize your boss, break your refrigerator, invert the color of your wallpaper, or elope with your daughter, it is your responsibility, not ours.  I would appreciate a kind note (no rants or flames, please) so that I may try to prevent this from occurring again, however I probably won’t be able to help you personally.  I will try to correct any problems that may occur, however being notified of a possible problem with a script does not make me responsible for attempting to fix such problem, nor for notifying users that a problem may exist.

All brand and product names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective companies.  I would like to thank Trans–Tex Software for Tex–Edit Plus, the awesome program used to create this Read Me! file.

All AppleScripts™ included in this archive are ©2001.  They may not be reproduced in any way without permission from the author.  The source code we distribute is for informational and educational purposes only, not for resale, pirating, or human consumption.  Thanks!
i remember this dan guys page said u need to update some applescript extensions for newer scripts to work aswell
AppleScript version 1.4.3 or later seems to be the important update

here we have the page of the makers of this applescripts
http://web.archive.org/web/20030207104617/http://homepage.mac.com/remsoftware/applescript.html

like i said what needs to be tried now is using automate ASR 1.0 with ASR 2.4.2
and see if it works to set these advancced options.. such as skip verify checksum
again the 3rd time the web.archive.org doesnt index the file for downloading the image scan script.  >:(
http://web.archive.org/web/20030207104617/http://homepage.mac.com/remsoftware/asrscan.hqx DEAD LINK !!
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 03:11:02 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #83 on: September 22, 2014, 02:43:42 PM »
This method works great, however there are a couple issues:

1) The allocation of memory to each program will need to be re-done every time you restore an image since all of them are lost.

It is weird. I never had this issue...

Where is that info supposed to be stored? All of mine reset to their default settings for some reason.

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« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2014, 03:22:00 AM »
OK!!!!!!!!
i found a working link/mirror of the remsoftware stuff
http://webpages.charter.net/remsoftware/util-scripts.html

the scripts are here!! working! for use with "automate ASR 1.0" also downloadable here
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Use these scripts to prepare an image for use with ASR.  Apple has these scripts available in the 20MB Installer SDK, but you can get them here at a smaller size, and even with instructions!  What convenience!
also attached! but this text.. now that i read it.. seems to say the scripts are the same as the ones in the sdk.. which will be of little benefit because we have those ones already
i just wish i could find this other dan guys "modified" scripts

http://web.archive.org/web/20040810131028/http://developer.apple.com/testing/docs/TNasr.html
in this documentation directly from apple there is reference made to 650mb size.. this was the CD size of the time..
cds were later improved to 700mb + 800mb sizes but 650 i remember was the standard for CD image size
thats why i reccommended trying with 650mb size because this software was from that time period
maybe we "get lucky" with using this segment size

if only we could get a copy of ASR 2.2.5 with the script "scan image for 9+X"
that is detailed in the how to pdf
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Finally, after the image has been created, select the appropriate scan script from the scripts menu:
a.
If your image contains just Mac OS X, select “Scan X-only image for ASR” from the “Scripts”
menu.
b.
If your image contains just Mac OS 9, or both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, select “Scan X+9
image for ASR”
from the “Scripts” menu
this is the missing key i think -- i had thought these scripts might be contained in these files in the attached asrscan.hqx...
http://web.archive.org/web/20010518134101/http://www.delta.edu/~dgschmid/
http://web.archive.org/web/20010824081636/http://www.ctap.fcoe.k12.ca.us/ctap/restore.htm
if only the link worked on http://web.archive.org/web/20010603203947/http://www.delta.edu/~dgschmid/asr.html page
for his "extras" scripts + preference file
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Download my extras. Don't worry; they're small. Open up the "Scripts" folder in ASR. Drag the 2 applescripting extensions to the System Folder. (Which should put them in the Scripting Additions folder.)

im trying to find..
http://web.archive.org/web/20010422072503/http://www.delta.edu/~dgschmid/MacintoshMP3.html cool page on mp3 encoding

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« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2014, 03:51:08 AM »
dan's asr page says this:

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Remember, if you copy from a hard drive that has directory damage (b-trees and gremlins and whatnot) your image will be bad! You have to fix the damage first or make a read/write image, mount it, run Disk First Aid on it (really, it works!) and then convert it to read only (which is a pain).

damn the b-trees!
read carefully..
here he is suggesting 2 ways to rectify a bad image
1) disk first aid
or 2)or make a  "read/write image"
(instead of "read-only" or "read-only compressed")

why then do all the other guides (including his own) reccomend "read-only" or "read-only compressed"????

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« Reply #86 on: September 23, 2014, 03:58:17 AM »
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"But I want a checksum!"

But why? Ok, fine. Open up my script. Uncomment the timeout lines and everything that's commented out in between them, and then comment out "set tImageChecksumValidity to true". Don't use the original script provided with ASR; it will most likely timeout.

here we see dan telling people how to RE-enable checksum.. so obviously his "modified script" already has this feature disabled to prevent error alert
and he also says the asr script original is flawed..

but we see the property involved.. "tImageChecksumValidity"
in whichever script we use we look for this and make sure its set to false to disable

this tImageChecksumValidity string variable appears in line 72 of the script from asr 1.3.2
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   if (tImageConsistency is not true) or (tImageChecksumValidity is not true) then
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1680.msg8695#msg8695

really cant we just disable checksum checking of cSum resource by ASR completely?
by using preferences file... + resedit to edit the prefs file..? if this works it and asr will just restore the
image + do it properly without the need for scanning the image nad generating proper cSum
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« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2014, 06:11:19 AM »
Another bad news:
Unfortunately I just found another limit: 4GB.

thats should be fine for a system folder.

TDM and MAS plug-ins, colorschemes and (the probably "biggest" problem:) altiverb responses could be removed before making a clone image.
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« Reply #88 on: September 23, 2014, 06:36:26 AM »
!!!!! breaking news!!!!  ;D breaking news!!!!   ;)breaking news!!!!  :o !!!!! breaking news!!!!  :-* breaking news!!!!  -afro- breaking news!!!!  !!!!! breaking news!!!! breaking news!!!! breaking news!!!! just been in contact with Mike Bombich from CCC software
and hes given me the ASR for Mac OS X 1.1 which contains the X+9 scripts!!!!!!

it also has ALL OF THE FILES referred to in the ASR how to PDF
including ASR 2.2.5dc32!!!!!!!!!! dated February 28, 2002!!

ive attached the zip file.. but it must be extracted on MAC OS X or else loses resource forks
i will create a os9 archive in .sit format in just a moment!

another victory soon come :D

WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER >> MOST OF THE *LAST VERSIONS* OF 9 SOFTWARE MAY BE LABELLED AS 10.1 or 10.2 PROGRAMS
even tho they are in fact still ppc mac os 9 100% compatible.. this is the best example of this..
this is the biggest reason.. NOT TO DELETE POSTS JUST BECAUSE THEY MENTION MAC OS X MACTRON >:( >:( >:( >:(

during the period of time of first few versions of mac os x there is a LARGE OVERLAP where things were both MAC OS 9 + MAC OS X compatible... from the source code level... the same programming code worked on both.. i think its called carbon? or carbon is just the GUI elements. im not sure..

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« Reply #89 on: September 23, 2014, 07:13:18 AM »
heres the full contents as viewed on 9
all files are A-OK,  resource forks intact

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« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2014, 07:43:19 AM »
i also suspect due to the presence of this .dmg file in the archive itself used as a template for creating dvd..
that this version of ASR will work 100% with a .dmg files

note that the .dmg file has its own specialized icon + filetype!!!
under version information is stored the size in mb with some other CRC32 checksum

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« Reply #91 on: September 23, 2014, 07:55:25 AM »
Thank You Chris. Great find.

i also suspect due to the presence of this .dmg file in the archive itself used as a template for creating dvd..
that this version of ASR will work 100% with a .dmg files

note that the .dmg file has its own specialized icon + filetype!!!
under version information is stored the size in mb with some other CRC32 checksum
There isn't any problem with .dmg's if they aren't compressed.

I'm ending the new scripts  test (with a 4 GB image file)...
...cross your fingers...
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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2014, 08:01:04 AM »
Just to said:

IT WORKED!

with a 4 GB image file.

I'll do some extra test.
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« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2014, 08:14:09 AM »
IT WORKED! with a 4 GB image file.


"Strong am I with the Force" :D lol
;D Amazing!                                  :o  impresionante!                                 -afro-                                 fantastisch!  :)                                 fantastique!  :-*   
i just connected up my firewire 500gb to my quicksilver 933.. bout to give it a test drive  8)



here is the updated "X+9" script for those curious like i am to cross reference with the old
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-- Version 1.1.1 JFK - Updated for device images, and disabled System Folder matching when used when ASR 2.1.3
-- Version 1.1 JFK - Added block checksum string to log after scanning

property kImageSelectPromptString : "Select a image to scan"
property kImageIsReadWrite : "Selected image is read-write and cannot be scanned. Convert it to read-only (or read-only compressed) and try again"
property kImageDoesNotCheck : "The Selected image does not appear to be in the correct format, or created with Disk Copy. Click convert to convert it to Disk Copy format, or stop to halt the scan."
property kOkButton : "OK"
property kStopButton : "Stop"
property kConvertButton : "Convert"
property kImageScanOSAXString : "Scripting Additions:ImageScan"
property k8ImageScanOSAXString : "ImageScan"
property kMissingAnOSAXString : "This droplet requires the ImageScan OSAX. Please put it into your Scripting Additions folder, or Disk Copy Scripts folder"
property kInfoMessage : "This script will prompt you for a read-only disk image, verify it's image checksum and volume structures, then scan it and generate information that ASR needs to restore it."
property kDontShowAgainButton : "Don't show again"
property kDisplayInfoMessage : 0

on run
if kDisplayInfoMessage is 1 then
set tResult to display dialog kInfoMessage buttons {kDontShowAgainButton, kOkButton} default button kOkButton with icon note
if button returned of tResult is kDontShowAgainButton then
set kDisplayInfoMessage to 0
end if
end if

try
tell application "Disk Copy 6.5b13"
set tImageToScan to choose file of type {"devi", "rohd"} with prompt kImageSelectPromptString
set tImageInfo to info for tImageToScan
end tell
on error tErrMessage number tErrNumber
if tErrNumber = -128 then -- The user clicked cancel
return "User cancelled operation"
else
display dialog ("There was a problem selecting the image: " & tErrMessage & " (" & tErrNumber & ")") buttons {kOkButton} default button kOkButton
ErrorSound()
return
end if
end try

try
set tResult to «event JonBImSc» tImageToScan with «class omt0»
on error tErrMessage number tErrNumber
if tErrNumber = -1708 then -- ImageScan is not available
display dialog kMissingAnOSAXString buttons {kOkButton} default button kOkButton
ErrorSound()
return kMissingAnOSAXString
end if
display dialog ("There was a problem scanning the image: [" & tErrMessage & "] (" & tErrNumber & ")") buttons {kOkButton} default button kOkButton
ErrorSound()
return
end try

try
tell application "Disk Copy 6.5b13"
if file type of tImageInfo is "rohd" then
log "We've just scanned an image for ASR!" with time stamp
log "Image " & "“" & (tImageToScan as string) & "”" & " was scanned."
log "It has " & (source count of tResult as string) & " files in it, and it's file checksum is $" & (type 1 hexadecimal part of tResult)
log "It's block checksum is " & (type 2 hexadecimal part of tResult)
if source system folder path of tResult is not "" then
log "It's System folder is located at " & (source system folder path of tResult as string) & ", " & ¬
"and has " & (source system folder count of tResult as string) & " files in it."
end if
else
log "We've just scanned an device image for ASR!" with time stamp
log "Image " & "“" & (tImageToScan as string) & "”" & " was scanned."
end if
end tell
on error tErrMessage number tErrNumber
display dialog ("There was a problem updating the log: " & tErrNumber & return & " but the image was scanned") buttons {kOkButton} default button kOkButton
ErrorSound()
return
end try

end run

on ConvertImage(tImageToConvert)
display dialog ("Coming soon...")
end ConvertImage

on ErrorSound()
try
«event aevtplsn» "Error"
end try
end ErrorSound
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--
-- GetPath - Returns the beginning of a input string deleting info after the last colon
--
-- Parameters:
-- Type string: aString
--
-- Returns:
-- All characters from the first character to the last colon in the string
--
-- Example:
-- GetPath("Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:FY94 budget")
-- ==> "Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:"
--
on GetPath(aString)
repeat
if last character of aString is not ":" then
set aString to (characters 1 thru ((length of aString) - 1) of aString) as string
else
exit repeat
end if
end repeat
display dialog aString
return aString as string
end GetPath
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2014, 08:40:00 AM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2014, 09:15:10 AM »
From 4GB to Infinity...
4GB image file size limit surpassed. Once the *new script* is applied ASR accept Image files over 4GB. Tested and confirmed.
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« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2014, 09:18:29 AM »
Gentlemen, Let's get down to business!!  ;D

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« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2014, 10:42:57 AM »
u seem fairly confidant there will be no other limit ...
i hope this is true but i think we are in the clear now either way

i had the thought of creating a 8gb dual layer dvd for restore..
for me this is the best idea because i can have many for just a few $$ each disc
and have backup copies + copies i could give to others etc
is mac os 9 able to read/burn dual layer dvds?
i know the leopard dvd was dual layer..
im hoping the answer is yes
if anyoen has any info re: dual layer dvds + mac os 9.. please
share the knowledge!

if there is a software requirement in toast then probably would be
10.x only.. but im hoping that it can work?

i will search for toast history press releases which describe support for dual layer dvd  to make sure

http://www.roxio.com/enu/support/toast/version_history6.html
here its mentioned:
Quote
Correctly records to DVD-R DL (dual layer) media for data disc formats.

toast 6.1 is os x only right?
but thats just for *recording* maybe os 9 can still *READ* dual layer dvd? ?
i guess the best way to find out is by inserting my mac os x leopard dual layer dvd into my mdd

its too bad we cant find a way to make 8gb usb flashdrive accessible over firewire
this is why i think a dvd would be best.. not evreyone has a lacie firewire compact flash
maybe its possible to get an IDE compact flash/sd card reader? all the ones i tried to look
at recently were usb3.0 powered

we are limited to:
-DVD
-firewire
-IDE (or sata-ide with adapter)
-Sata & esata (via pci addon card)


esata will be the best performance anyway

dvd is the cheapest cost of all tho if it supported dual layer dvd
or my msata hack maybe http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1718.0
or this IDE to SD mounted in the zip drive position:
 http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1658.msg7893#msg7893
or for an mdd or system with no 3.5 front bay - u can mount in pci slot:


could be a very ideal for backups. as the speed of the SD card wont be that fast to run OS from.
but could be very usefull to do multiple restore images on these sd cards for backup!!!
out of all the available data storage formats we can convert to ide..
compact flash, etc SD is the cheapest!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2014, 11:26:57 AM »
I haven't read everything in the last few posts, but does this mean we'll be getting a new package with new instructions?

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« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2014, 11:32:44 AM »
mactron
from looking at the applescripts

... omg...

i think the real reason it didnt work is because
the old scan for ASR script was talking to THE OLD VERSION OF DISK COPY
see in the difference between the old script : http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1680.msg8695#msg8695
and the new script : http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1680.msg8741#msg8741

the new script is coded to pass commands directly to disk copy 6.5b13
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tell application "Disk Copy 6.5b13"
and the old was sending commands to the regular old version of disk copy!!!
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tell application "Disk Copy"
no fucking wonder

it may very well work simply by changing this from "disk copy" to "disk copy 6.5b13" in the old script!!!! LOL
if we had renamed disk copy 6.5b13 to "disk copy" and deleted the old.. then it might have just worked just by doing that!

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« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2014, 11:50:59 AM »
is mac os 9 able to read/burn dual layer dvds?
i know the leopard dvd was dual layer..
im hoping the answer is yes
if anyoen has any info re: dual layer dvds + mac os 9.. please
share the knowledge!

YES. Mac Os 9 can read Dual Layer DVD (commercial and writables).
And may be,Toast 5.2.x can write them, I don't remember for sure if I did it sometime.

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« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2014, 12:02:31 PM »

the new script is coded to pass commands directly to disk copy 6.5b13
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tell application "Disk Copy 6.5b13"
and the old was sending commands to the regular old version of disk copy!!!
Quote
tell application "Disk Copy"
no fucking wonder

it may very well work simply by changing this from "disk copy" to "disk copy 6.5b13" in the old script!!!! LOL
if we had renamed disk copy 6.5b13 to "disk copy" and deleted the old.. then it might have just worked just by doing that!

Not at all.
The problem of the old script, even Adam's one, is that don't recognize UDIF images. Even though I've achieved to solve this, but some important functions in to the script failed. I read clearly on Disk Copy AppleScript dictionary that those functions won't work with UDIF. I haven't carefully read the new scripts, but they seems to take a very different procedure...
... so the point are on the script as I've said.
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« Reply #101 on: September 24, 2014, 07:57:23 AM »
"tell application Disk Copy" would result in sending the image file to the old "Disk Copy 6.3.3" (jan 1999) version in the utilities folder.. which is what famously has this 2gb limit and cannot checksum an image larger then 2gb

it is within disk copy app that it has the function (under utility dropdown) "calculate disk checksum" and "verify image checksum" the applescript doesnt process the udif image, it merely instructs disk copy to do so.. so even though it was ASR 2.2.4 version, it had this old script from v1.3.8 the old script, which was talking to the wrong version of disk copy... it wasnt using 6.5b13 (jan 2002) disk copy at all!!!

ASR 2.2.1 (2001)
ASR 2.2.3 (2001)

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1262?viewlocale=en_US (posted Post Date: May 6, 1999)
so this 6.3.3 is from before may of 1999..!

disk copy 6.4 or above is neccessary to read UDIF images...
disk copy 6.4 (Mar 2001)

its amazing that apple never thought to upgrade disk copy version when it was putting out revisions 9.04, 9.1, 9.2??
but this was kept secret for "developers only"

ps. who is adam?
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« Reply #102 on: September 24, 2014, 08:58:02 AM »
if we examine the info here..
http://web.archive.org/web/19990427102731/http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n24601

Mac OS Extended Format: Volume and FIle Limits (dated 2/1/99) ***mac os 8.5
Maximum volume size 2 terabytes
Maximum file size    2 gigabytes
Maximum data fork size    2 gigabytes

vs a later posting:
http://web.archive.org/web/19991117095556/http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n24601

Mac OS Extended Format: Volume and File Limits (dated 11/16/99) ***mac os 9.0
Maximum number of volumes   21 (2)
Maximum volume size    2 terabytes
Maximum file size   2 terabytes (3)
Maximum data fork size    2 terabytes (4)

it seems that it was around november 1999 that the mac os filesystem was enabled
to have files larger then 2 gb
this 6.3.3 disk copy was programmed in a time that 2gb was the absolute largest file
u could have on a hard drive! the time of mac os 8


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« Reply #103 on: September 24, 2014, 09:07:00 AM »
YES. Mac Os 9 can read Dual Layer DVD (commercial and writables).
And may be,Toast 5.2.x can write them, I don't remember for sure if I did it sometime.

i very much hope this is true!
it would be great to have a 4gb bootable restore dvd 8)
and even greater to have the freedom to move to a 8gb bootable restore dvd if the need arises!!

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« Reply #104 on: September 24, 2014, 09:21:23 AM »
The info has changed because the first info was erroneous. In 1998 with release of Mac OS 8.1 HFS Plus (Mac OS Extended Format) was also introduced. HFS Plus *NEVER* had this limitations:

Maximum file size    2 gigabytes
Maximum data fork size    2 gigabytes

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« Reply #105 on: September 24, 2014, 09:58:56 AM »
mactron.. that info is straight from the tech info library of apple
you are saying its incorrect?

it may very well be that mac os extended filesystem was capable of more, but it took them quite a long time from its introduction, to update all programs + information
to reflect + be compatible with this fact.

disk copy 6.3.3 was probably just updated from an older version that was originally coded for mac os standard filesystem.

the creation date of those facts was : 9/9/98

HFS + was Introduced    January 19, 1998 (Mac OS 8.1)
according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

thats a pretty big fuck up if its incorrect, for them to write this down incorrectly for the world to read, 9 months after HFS+ was already landed

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« Reply #106 on: September 24, 2014, 10:02:29 AM »
mactron.. that info is straight from the tech info library of apple
you are saying its incorrect?

YES.Is incorrect. AFAIK.
...they are human also... LOL
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« Reply #107 on: September 24, 2014, 09:57:51 PM »
I restored an OS7.6.1 image onto the drive. It works 100% with the exception of the Digital Performer authorization. Even the Memory thing was fixed, not sure how that happened on OS8.6.

This is gonna save me so much time I can't even begin to explain. I probably spent about 4 months full time over the years just formatting/reinstalling software.

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« Reply #108 on: September 24, 2014, 10:18:29 PM »
I restored an OS7.6.1 image onto the drive. It works 100% with the exception of the Digital Performer authorization. Even the Memory thing was fixed, not sure how that happened on OS8.6.

This is gonna save me so much time I can't even begin to explain. I probably spent about 4 months full time over the years just formatting/reinstalling software.

Can the Digital Performer authorization be fooled mounting a Toast Image with Toast 5 on OS9? Or we need to write a CD-ROM?
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« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2014, 10:20:54 PM »
It's an authorization on your hard drive. I believe it's an invisible file and I could only see it when I used Greg's Browser. Maybe we can use Greg's Browser to copy it and restore it when we need it, but I'd rather just reinstall the damn thing myself.

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« Reply #110 on: September 24, 2014, 10:28:46 PM »
It's an authorization on your hard drive. I believe it's an invisible file and I could only see it when I used Greg's Browser. Maybe we can use Greg's Browser to copy it and restore it when we need it, but I'd rather just reinstall the damn thing myself.
Some old school user had fried DP and EXS-24 CD-ROMs for quicker re-auth.

I thought that maybe in some cases using Toast 5 with disk images should be quicker than using real CD-ROMs. I saw somewhere that DP needed a REAL CD-ROM to be authored.   
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« Reply #111 on: September 24, 2014, 10:30:22 PM »
I believe it's an invisible file and I could only see it when I used Greg's Browser. Maybe we can use Greg's Browser to copy it and restore it when we need it, but I'd rather just reinstall the damn thing myself.
http://kaleidoscope.net/greg/browser.html

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« Reply #112 on: September 24, 2014, 10:32:50 PM »
Disk images are always quicker but DP seems to need a burned CD. I bought the original myself so I just use that.

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« Reply #113 on: September 24, 2014, 10:37:08 PM »
Disk images are always quicker but DP seems to need a burned CD. I bought the original myself so I just use that.

there is multiple versions of the nocd patch for dp that allow u to use a toast image AFAIK
one for 2.7 and another for 3.0,

but this is offtopic!!!! :P

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« Reply #114 on: September 24, 2014, 10:43:26 PM »

there is multiple versions of the nocd patch for dp that allow u to use a toast image AFAIK
one for 2.7 and another for 3.0,

but this is offtopic!!!! :P

What is not covered thru the magic of clonning with ASR is ONTOPIC. The method to re-authorize quicker ASR clonned images on major DAWs/Samplers/VST(i) should be ontopic too.  :(
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« Reply #115 on: September 24, 2014, 10:49:16 PM »

there is multiple versions of the nocd patch for dp that allow u to use a toast image AFAIK
one for 2.7 and another for 3.0,

but this is offtopic!!!! :P

What is not covered thru the magic of clonning with ASR is ONTOPIC. The method to re-authorize quicker ASR clonned images on major DAWs/Samplers/VST(i) should be ontopic too.  :(

yes but like syntho said.. dp authorization is EASY... we are more concerned with not having to enter 256 digit codes to authorize apps that make u type every last fucking character out to auth it
and copying these characters from a pc..
thats the shit we dont ever want to have to do again!!!!!!!

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« Reply #116 on: September 26, 2014, 05:30:29 AM »
Why is it that you can't restore the image to a smaller-than-original partition? Has anyone actually tried it?

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« Reply #117 on: September 26, 2014, 05:42:16 AM »
Why is it that you can't restore the image to a smaller-than-original partition? Has anyone actually tried it?
No problem with this.

... size of the destination Hard Disk or partition must be equal or bigger than the image file (uncompressed).

Only is important the size of uncompressed image file, not original partition size.
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« Reply #118 on: September 26, 2014, 07:11:47 AM »
Oh I see, I misread.

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« Reply #119 on: September 26, 2014, 12:07:08 PM »
What is not covered thru the magic of clonning with ASR is ONTOPIC. The method to re-authorize quicker ASR clonned images on major DAWs/Samplers/VST(i) should be ontopic too.  :(

i meant my comment + that topic of cd patch is offtopic to asr thread..
not you:P

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« Reply #120 on: September 26, 2014, 08:46:06 PM »
ive just confirmed that Disk Copy 6.5b13 requires Mac Os 9.1 or later
with this in mind..

this means that anyone using a version prior is limited to 2GB restore images
and using the lower version of ASR + its "Scan Image for ASR" script


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« Reply #121 on: October 01, 2014, 10:04:31 AM »
ive begun work on creating a restore disc for the 450mhz b&w g3s... focusing on keeping software to highly compatible versions, from very early 2000 but mostly spring-fall 1999 versions of apps
with the base os coming directly from a software restore of the original os bundled with the machine

***Disk Copy 6.4 appears to be compatible with Mac os 8.6
***Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 also appears to be compatible with Mac os 8.6

maybe we should have a 8.6 sub forum area to keep all 8.6 info together instead of scattered all over
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 12:04:09 PM by chrisNova777 »

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« Reply #122 on: October 01, 2014, 09:24:48 PM »
just did my first successfull ASR restore with ASR 1.3.2 package (under 2gb)  :-* :-* :-*
i had no idea that drive setup could partition drives!! hell ya!!!!

my install consisted mainly of cubase 4.1r1, reason 1.01, live 1.01 + logic 4.81 running on mac os 8.6
size was around 1.2gb (mostly due to the reason soundbank neccessary for loading with one click.)
could have been half that if i omitted the sndbank  :D

i decided to start from the lowest common denominator + work my way up ! onwards + upward!

this is wild  8) now i can partition my original drive with drivesetup. sweeeeet  :-*

its funny i actually found someones old pentium 4 computer they had put out on the street in front  of their
house while walking my dogs - so i picked it up and brought it home.. and have just used their 160gb + 80gb drives
i salvaged from the abandoned compaq.. so my volume names are "streetTrash" + "FoundOnCurb" ;D

also nabbed a dual layer Sony Burner... + a DVDROM and a wireless PCI card that seems to do ok now that ive patched it up with a new antenna
wonder if its airport compatible :)

the acard 6880M is working great for os 8.6!!!!!! nice + fast ata133 comperd to the g3's own ata-33
all i need is a g3port or stealth for b&W and this machine is totally maxxed out ;D
the B&W is a thing of beauty!


***reason1.01 losts it's authorization during the clone
everything else is perfect
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« Reply #123 on: October 02, 2014, 02:59:59 AM »
one other thing.. the startup disk control panel with version #9.2.3 that is packaged with "ASR for MacOSx 1.1"
do u think this control panel is compatible with other versions of mac os (9.1, 9.0, 8.6??) i had the thought
that maybe this control panel could be used to give other lower versions the ability to select different system folders
with a same partition...

does anyone know what added features it has over other versions? has anyone explored this yet?

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« Reply #124 on: October 02, 2014, 04:12:07 AM »
cubase 4.1r1 has lost its auth when installed to a partition that is not the "primary" first partition? at least thats what the cause looks like to me...
mactron, have u seen this happen? could it in anway because im using the older ASR?

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« Reply #125 on: October 02, 2014, 07:58:37 AM »
one other thing.. the startup disk control panel with version #9.2.3 that is packaged with "ASR for MacOSx 1.1"
do u think this control panel is compatible with other versions of mac os (9.1, 9.0, 8.6??) i had the thought
that maybe this control panel could be used to give other lower versions the ability to select different system folders
with a same partition...

does anyone know what added features it has over other versions? has anyone explored this yet?

Yes I do. The startup disk control panel with version 9.2.3 adds the ability to select different system folders in to the same partition. In fact I use the 9.2.6 from MDD 9.2 in Mac Os 8.6 :)


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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2014, 12:35:30 AM »
Hi,

My main (OS) hd is starting to give up on me.  >:(
It's a volume/partition of 30GB. Is it possible to restore an image of that size with ASR?
I came as far as creating an image of the volume with diskcopy and applying the script.
ASR however refuses to restore the image because it's > 4gb.
Did I reach the limit of ASR or ?

Any help appreciated!

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #127 on: November 04, 2014, 12:57:36 AM »
arjen.. u want to move any non-system files that u can off of the drive first
and get it down to 4gb in size and then do the asr

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2014, 01:50:17 AM »
Thanks. Going to give it a try!
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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2014, 02:31:47 PM »
ASR however refuses to restore the image because it's > 4gb.

Did you successfully applied the ASR script?

From 4GB to Infinity...
4GB image file size limit surpassed. Once the *new script* is applied ASR accept Image files over 4GB. Tested and confirmed.
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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #130 on: November 06, 2014, 04:02:05 AM »
Yes I did. But I am not sure if it's the new or old script. I downloaded http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1822.0 In the end ASR refused my 29 GB image.  ::)

However I "discovered" also an option in diskcopy wich I am testing as we speak: Utilities=> Clone.
And as far as I can tell.....this does the job too! Except for Spectrasonics VSTi's all disk authorizations seem to be preserved. ?!?

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #131 on: June 02, 2015, 04:27:00 AM »
so i know its been awhile since we discussed this topic but
what was the largest size that was able to be realized by any member? pretty sure it was larger then 4gb? but was it larger then 8gb?

im reminded of this thread now because im doing a restore from a 5 cd set that came with the quicksikver 2002 933mhz model..
and the restore cd is using ASR..but with a segmented DMG file.. 
it shows the filename for each disc as ending with ".dmgpart"
as its restoring..

im pretty sure that this would be something we could do..
pretty sure this is what the "set UDIF segment size" script in the ASR package is for?
i just thought it would be really cool to have a spanned DVD or spanned CD restore disk set
for "instant daw" which would let anyone use normal 4gb size DVD-R media to realize a 8gb restore

there is a whole language to the config file for the ASR..
i vaguely remember reading something about it saying that the public was never intended to be able to make
segmented restores.. but i think its possible!

the installation of diehards instant daw for example. if it was larger then 4gb..
how did u guys go about installing it? using multiple hard drives im guessing?
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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #132 on: October 18, 2015, 11:13:41 PM »
I'm trying to make a new image of an install but it keeps telling me that my disk is full. Weird, I have 15GB left on it  :o

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #133 on: October 19, 2015, 06:08:06 PM »
Man WTF is going on? I tried a few different versions of Disk Copy and it still gives me this weird "error -34". "The Disk Is Full" huh? I've got 15GB here, 30GB there, 80GB on another...

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #134 on: October 19, 2015, 08:01:52 PM »
Are the volumes formatted "Standard" or "Extended"... maybe you hit a different limit like number of files in a folder... or on root... etc.

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2015, 08:48:29 PM »
It's actually a 100% fresh install on a drive with a clean format and I have both standard and extended partitions that I'm trying to back up. Actually, the only thing I can muster at this point is that maybe it's because I'm doing this on a SCSI drive? I was used to doing this on OS installs that were on my SATA drive and I can't remember if I ever tried to back up a SCSI one. This is on my 9600 by the way.

Let me do some testing and I'll report back...

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2015, 08:57:28 PM »
Ok, I don't know what's going on but for some reason Disk Copy isn't calculating the correct size for the image. When I just tried it on another OS8.6 install drive, it correctly calculated the size (a little over 300mb or 300000K). However when I try doing that on my System 7 drive, which should be 170MB or 170000K, it calculates it at about 40000K or 40MB.

I switched it to a 320MB image file and it's working now. I'm just confused as to why it's doing that suddenly, it never did in the past. My OS8.6 drive is also on the same SCSI drive on a different partition so something funny is going on.

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #137 on: October 20, 2015, 05:16:40 AM »
Are you using the latest diskcopy and ASR tools?
Looking for MacOS 9.2.4

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Re: Preserving disk authorizations using Apple Software Restore.
« Reply #138 on: October 20, 2015, 08:03:07 AM »
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