Powermac 9600 CPU upgrade

[coachla]

I would listen to Mat here. He obviously knows. I ran 8500s with a copper PowerLogix  up to 450/60 amd 9500s Newer 400s and XLR8 Carrier Zifs, but there wasn't much you could do to snap it up. Yes, get the 800 or a 1000. But the BIG question is what will Logic do? Mat, are you running Logic? I'm assuming Syntho is using it. I never got Logic, with audio, to play it cool on any SCSI machine, but I sure learned a lot about Logic trying to figure out why! 1.5 gb ram is okay, though memory checking apps won't read more than 1gb. Forget the builtin SCSI....

If someone wants to donate a Magma chassis, I'll take one....

[Syntho]

This was all stuff that I read elsewhere. Does a Radeon 7000 power multiple displays at once? The only thing I'm worried about is that those ATI cards don't support a 1280X720 resolution. 1920X1080 is the only 16:9 res they support. I'm gonna have to find a way to hack them or use another type of video card that supports more than one 16:9 resolution. There's a hack for some Twin Turbo cards out there. I have one laying around so I may need another. I'll have to run some VGA cables and get some dsub-VGA adapters for that to work as well I think.

I actually use Logic for midi only so there most likely won't be a problem. I'm using Digital Performer at the moment, and of course Pro Tools most definitely runs OK on the system as well. coachla, do you go into the audio driver section of Logic and just de-tick all of the drivers? That's what I've always done.

Also, I have two different SATA-IDE connectors in my G4 at the moment. I wonder what the difference would be in getting a SATA card and hooking up the SATA drives in my G4 as they are, or getting an IDE card and using those adapters. I may just get a SATA card to avoid using adapters altogether.

[coachla]

You are right about the ATI. Depends on monitor too. On one monitor I can get 1280x768, but only 1920x1080 on the other.

I use only my midi dongle, not the audio dongle. But yes, that would be the way.... to declick mac av, asio etc.

[supernova777]

This was all stuff that I read elsewhere. Does a Radeon 7000 power multiple displays at once? The only thing I'm worried about is that those ATI cards don't support a 1280X720 resolution. 1920X1080 is the only 16:9 res they support.

they support any resolution
its the drivers that dont support the resolution
i know because ive havcked the drivers to work custom resolutions on windows 98 text editing .inf files frm the driver resources
they dont support that res becase there were no monitors that required them to make those settings embedded into the drivers
it wasnt a setting that anyone would have used in 2001 or 2002
ive never even heard of 1280x720 wtf? its 1280x1024  or 1024x768 why would u want a low res 16x9 setting?
what screens do u have that support such a strange resolution.. man. i thought 1680x1050 was a pain in the ass..

[Syntho]

The Twin Turbo cards can be hacked to run at 1920X1080 and any other resolution. I may try that. You can see more details here: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/10842-1920x1080-on-pm8500-built-in-twin-turbo-128/

I guess this means I'll need some Apple Display DSUB to VGA adapters and that I'll also have to run some VGA cables. I'd rather hack the ATI drivers but I'm uncertain as to how.

[supernova777]

on win98 it really wasnt that difficult. copy + pasting a few lines + editing the resolution number
maybe u can do something similar with a right clcick show package contents?? to find the file that holds the resolutions info
mactron would know better then i

[Syntho]

Actually it may be the exact same method as described above in the link I posted for ATI cards. The guy has already posted extensions for the Twin Turbo cards but not at the resolutions I want. I'll have to wait and see...

[IIO]

they support any resolution
its the drivers that dont support the resolution

switchres in OS9 and OSX can help you further here, too, as long as the monitor is not of some ultra idiosycratic resolutions (e.g. fixed frequency or of quadratic size)

[Syntho]

I picked up a 500mhz Sonnet card, but I'm thinking of going with another faster CPU. Those upgrade cards past 500mhz are hard to find. I'd settle on a 700mhz if I could find it, 800mhz would be even better, and I won't try getting a 1ghz since those are way too hard to find.

Currently my 9600 has a 233mhz CPU which is an upgrade from the 200mhz that it originally had. This thing is WAY slow. I'm curious to see benchmarks between the 233mhz CPU and the 500mhz G3 upgrade CPU. I looked for benchmarks online but those older systems don't seem to be benched so much.

The mhz between 233 and 500 is obvious but I wonder what else comes into play as far as speed since they're actually different chips.

[supernova777]

Currently my 9600 has a 233mhz CPU which is an upgrade from the 200mhz that it originally had. This thing is WAY slow.

lol what do u expect
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/specs/powermac_9600_200.html
Introduction Date:    February 17, 1997
17 year old computer hahahah
its almost legal age;D