Unisyn 1.5

[Syntho]

I kinda crackup when I see things like "read 6000" 

Read 6000? What does that mean?

Man, I threw Unisyn out the window and never looked back. Holy SHIT was it a bitch to get running solidly on my system. I learned that I can only have either MOTU's FreeMidi system or OMS installed on my Mac at once. Combining them will lead to a god damned disaster! If you're using DP/Unisyn and nothing else, you may get it working fine. I spent 2-3 months trying to get my rig solid until I gave up. OMS with Galaxy, SVP and Pro Tools is what I run permanently. I don't even use Logic anymore. Best system I've ever had and I hope to have it until I drop.

[Syntho]

well if anyone gets it working
please post back with your "fake" working serial 

If I remember correctly, the reason it didn't work the first time around was that I got a bad copy. I have a good copy somewhere that works for sure though. Even the good copy I remember having to try it a few times to get it to work. I don't remember exactly how this worked, but what I do remember is that Unisyn absolutely expects to see a SCSI drive (an actual SCSI drive). Even if the invisible authorization file is on a SATA or IDE drive, Unisyn won't launch unless there's physically a SCSI drive in your system. Don't ask, because I don't know.

I also remember some weird MOTU driver conflict I had. I couldn't even get my system to boot until I removed that MOTU extension. God, it was hell. HELL. For months. I almost have panic attacks just thinking about it.

[macStuff]

i think u should know by now that one mac users experience does not equal the next mac users experience

conflicts ARE a serious pain in the ass..
but most of the time the real error lies between keyboard + chair or at least in their lack of experience with a given software package

ie: perhaps a mishappen result of combination of software.. or like u said "bad copy"
that was not packaged properly, possibly missing few required files here or there..

it sucks that your personal experience scraping together unofficial + non-registered versions of their software. (its to be expected i guess when finding 20 year old software for free on the internet! lol) but i would have to say there are alot of people that probably bought the software.. got up +  running, received the tech support they needed + went about their business!

just because you personally had more luck with a diffferent patch librarian doesnt mean that unisyn sucks.. it means u personally had difficulty for some presently undetermined reason..
theres all kinds of old patch/librarian software.. i mean really these are programs that have disected some detailed midicode and made it into "system" to be able to load + save instrument patches
u can do this with all kinds of different vintage pcs.. frm DOS to the Apple II to the Atari ST

we can look back on them and go wow! thats old and ancient.. who would ever want to use that!!!
or we can.. just actually use them! because yes the midi codes are still the same..
it doesnt matter how old the software is..whether or not its usefull to you comes down to..
does it let me load some patches into my instrument?? does it let me save my current patch for recall later?
if it works, then its usefull

like u kind of eluded to in your post.. there are conflicts + issues that can arise if you try to install ALL SOFTWARE on the same machine.. as opposed to being a 100% motu user with only freemidi iinstalled (no OMS) and using all the motu software.. theres many many users out there that DID follow this practice...installing only 100% motu apps.. or they were 100% in the opcode camp using OMS + all the opocde hardware + software.. or they were 100% into the logic camp, with AMT8 + unitor2 + logic software + sound diver etc

similarly to how one would not want os9 or osx leopard on the same box... u have to pick and choose. ok am i going to use this box for a logic setup? or a SVP setup? some things can co-exist peacefully.. other things are oil + water like trying to run osx + os9 on the same box.. are just always going to be problematic so easier to just sidestep the issue to avoid conflicts completely and save yourself headaches + wasted time

but it does seem that oms tends to cause less problems than freemidi
this is most likely why it became (and remained) the standard rather than being eclipsed by freemidi
motu i dont think are evil for having made their own system.. they just wanted their full hands in their own clay to control their own environment.. thats understandable..

im not 100% freemidi/motu expert myself but just because im unaware/uneducated about the complexities of a given software package doesnt mean u should want to publicly bash it!
but it is good to give users a warning not to try to combine certain softwares on the same box.. can lead to days of pulling out your hair..

if theres anything i learned frm using computers.. its that 99.99999% of the time theres usually a REASON for things working or not working... and it seems like magic hocus pocus voodoo untill u discover the actual reason but its there!! hiding somewhere..

[Syntho]

Is there a confirmed good copy of Unisyn 1.5 anywhere?

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i have a boxed copy of 1.14 but i cannot deauthorize it anymore as i had corrupted Compact Flash disk.  I have to launch it with the Master disk in place, every time i seek to use it. 

Anyone know how to deauthorize the floppy? or to patch it?

[WhiteWarlock]

let me see if have [k] for Unisyn somewhere in CD archives...
you can try that with you original disks
it's a long shot if can find it anymore

[Syn-Fi]

thanks
can confirm 1.5 re-patcher isn't going to work.

[macStuff]

syn-fi i know a friend of mine from facebook that is able to replicate + duplicate the master auth disks if it does use a floppy for license auth?

is there any way you can make the original installation media available for all of us to attempt to get it to work?
is it a compact disk that you have? can you create an iso from the cd?

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
ok i made one attempt to image the 'auth' disk but it failed.  i used the package thats on here... imaged it and then used norton disk doctor to make a copy.

i can try again, if the image succeeds i can load it up.

its not on CD, its pre-cd, but i find that Unisyn 1.14 is still useful for earlier 68k machines and also it is the only version Unisyn i can get to successfully work with 'bulky' transfers to my Microwave 1.

[macStuff]

my friend i spoke of is a apple II/GS freak who works for the bank of america
he has specialized hardware for making copies of auth floppies
if u were to send him the disk in the mail he can create multiple copies using his equipment

you shouild still be able to make copies of the floppies using diskcopy 6.23 or whatever
or even using other floppy imaging software.. but it still wont work to authorize the app

are they 1,44mb floppies? or 800k disks?

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/2416-diskcopy-4-2-6-0-6-3-3-6-4-6-5b13

[Syn-Fi]

hi i will try.
i believe auth disk is 800k the rest HD.
does that matter for the purposes of imaging?

Does your dude (@BoA) have Catweasel?

[macStuff]

the 800k diskettes is the reason why i went out and bought a performa 5200CD for 25$
because it has the floppy drive; I wish i had an 8600 or beige G3; but still havent been able to track one down;

did anyone manage to get unisyn 1.5 working?

[Syntho]

I got 1.5 working way back in the day. But at this point I wouldn't want to go back and try to use it or figure out what I did to get it to work. I'm scarred for life from trying to get FreeMidi working.

[macStuff]

I got 1.5 working way back in the day. But at this point I wouldn't want to go back and try to use it or figure out what I did to get it to work. I'm scarred for life from trying to get FreeMidi working.

was this on your 9600? with which os? can you remember? can you remember which version of Freemidi you were tryng to use? was it between 1.38 + 1.43? there are distinct differences betwen some of the versions that i read about that they changed over the years.
i remember your freemidi ordeal but there has to be some rational expectation.

"FreeMIDI is a complete MIDI operating system for the Macintosh OS 9. It ships free of charge and is automatically installed with all Mark of the Unicorn music software products." http://www.motu.com/products/software/freemidi/view?searchterm=freemidi

their own website claims its automatically installed so you must have had some type of conflict going on
i can do a fresh os install on my performa 5200cd soon and try to get to the bottom of it.
on my website oldschooldaw.com i did alot of work trying to sort out the versions/timeline

http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php/topic,60.0.html

FREEMIDI
freemidi 1.x.x (April 1993?)
freemidi 1.2.3 (December 1994)
freemidi 1.24 (may/june 1995)
freemidi 1.2.4 (October 1996)
freemidi 1.3 which dates back to (january 1997)
freemidi 1.31 (june 1997)
freemidi 1.34
freemidi 1.35 (emulates oms)
freemidi 1.38 (January 1999)
freemidi 1.40 (july 1999)
freemidi 1.41 (august 1999)
freemidi 1.42 october 1999
freemidi 1.43 november 1999
freemidi 1.44 april 2000
freemidi 1.45 september 2000
FreeMIDI 1.46   22-Mar-2001
FreeMIDI 1.47 Dec 6, 2001
freeMIDI 1.48 (November 2002)

[Syntho]

It was actually on an MDD or two running 9.2.2. The Freemidi version was most likely the latest one, but I probably also used older versions just to test. 1.38 to 1.43 is what I used.

What I remember is that you MUST have a SCSI hard drive in your computer for it to work, if it is a computer that originally ran on a SCSI HD. It needs it for the HD authorization, REGARDLESS if the authorization is on the SCSI HD or not. I know that sounds weird, but that's the way it was. However my MDD didn't have that problem.

I remember trying to authorize it, then the authorization crashed, then I tried a few more times, and perhaps used some other authorization, and somehow it just started working. I gave up on FreeMidi relate products altogether for other reasons though.

[chrisNova777]

if the sil3112 cards are seen as SCSI... i wonder if that would work for the auth for unisyn?
did anyone test this  with a normal Sata drive (or SSD) and a SIL3112?

did u have a SATA card with firmtek firmware when you tried this syntho?

mactron.. your auth worked??? did you have a real SCSI drive installed with SCSI Controller? or were u using a sil3112 sata card with firmtek firmware?

[Syn-Fi]

can't get my 1.14 to launch on a Quadra 700.
Had it working on a 840AV