ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2

[filipetolhuizen]

First of all hello to everyone,
I came to this forum with a new hope for my Radeon 9200 mac edition pci 128mb. Unfortunately what I believed to be the hope for it (the ultra rare ATI july 2005 update) wasn't. Here's what happens: The card shows perfect picture but every Radeon 9200 compatible driver refuses to load and the system freezes upon showing the desktop. Could it be a damaged card? My system is: B&W G3 with a G4 400mhz original from "Yikes!" overclocked to 450mhz with proper voltage tweak, 1GB memory, 80GB + 40GB HDs, LG DVD-RAM, 2 Voodoo2 8MB in SLI, using a Radeon 7000 64MB which is working perfectly. I tried removing the voodoo2 cards, using it on the 33mhz slots but everything failed. I don't what else I can do for it to work as it's claimed to be 100% compatible with my system. Any help is appreciated.

[supernova777]

honestly.. yes on paper the radeon 9200 is alot bettre tehn the radeon 7000..
but i  have a g3 450mhz with a radeon 7000 card and it works great.. u should put your mind to doing some cool things with software and forget about chasing the max potential of the video card becasue this radeon 7000 card is good enough ..!

i myself have obsessed about trying to acheive the best video performance and best hardware combos but really this radeon 7000 functions just as good
be happy with yoru pc;)

are u using this mac for creative purposes?

[filipetolhuizen]

honestly.. yes on paper the radeon 9200 is alot bettre tehn the radeon 7000..
but i  have a g3 450mhz with a radeon 7000 card and it works great.. u should put your mind to doing some cool things with software and forget about chasing the max potential of the video card becasue this radeon 7000 card is good enough ..!

i myself have obsessed about trying to acheive the best video performance and best hardware combos but really this radeon 7000 functions just as good
be happy with yoru pc;)

are u using this mac for creative purposes?

Yes, the Radeon 7000 works great, but I was wondering if I could get better 3D performance. I use this Mac for retro-gaming. Sometimes the Radeon 7000 struggles on 3D mode, but is awesome in 2D. Before that I was even trying to reach 500mhz with the G4 ZIF module. I tried the proper voltage tweak on 2 different G4 400mhz processors but none were stable even not overheating. I followed the guide at xlr8yourmac but it didn't work for me so I stayed at 450mhz, which is great already.

[supernova777]

ok yes . for gaming then, if u are serious + want the best performance on mac os 9.. then there is nothing better then the GeForce4 Ti4600 or Radeon 8500
but of course those are AGP videocards..... and u want pci.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI[/youtube]

maybe ask this guy what drivers he used?

but yea it seems hes using osx? so maybe this video isnt as relevant as i thought.

id say if these drivers dont work:
http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#CR

then your card is probably just fucked or something?

[filipetolhuizen]

ok yes . for gaming then, if u are serious + want the best performance on mac os 9.. then there is nothing better then the GeForce4 Ti4600 or Radeon 8500
but of course those are AGP videocards..... and u want pci.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI[/youtube]

maybe ask this guy what drivers he used?

but yea it seems hes using osx? so maybe this video isnt as relevant as i thought.

id say if these drivers dont work:
http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#CR

then your card is probably just fucked or something?

Yes, I think it is, I remember being in this page. I think I'll get a Radeon 9250 and flash it. At least I know they work with the july 2005 update.

[MacTron]

This are the ATI RAdeon 9200 drivers:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1193.0;attach=385

If the problem persist, may be originated by a different cause....

[filipetolhuizen]

This are the ATI RAdeon 9200 drivers:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1193.0;attach=385

If the problem persist, may be originated by a different cause....

Thank you, I'll try them. The name of the file says Radeon 9250. But didn't the july 2005 update already added support for it?
Oh, another thing that happens with mine is that it only shows image with the latest ROM. I tried flashing it with older ROMs for it but there was no picture at all. It's got a serial number of a real mac card, but the resistors positions don't match the ones in here (mine has red pcb as well): http://themacelite.wikidot.com/9250-trick

[supernova777]

if your card is the power color pc version be glad it works at all! mine didnt show picture at all - i assumed that this was because of it being pci2.2 spec and above compatible only
i almost threw the card out untill i put it into a 2004 asus motherboard (Asus P4B533) and it worked fine
it gave problems with newer + older boards tho.. very strange

[filipetolhuizen]

if your card is the power color pc version be glad it works at all! mine didnt show picture at all - i assumed that this was because of it being pci2.2 spec and above compatible only
i almost threw the card out untill i put it into a 2004 asus motherboard (Asus P4B533) and it worked fine
it gave problems with newer + older boards tho.. very strange

My card was purchased as an authentic Mac Edition (at least it's what it says on the S/N label) and it has red pcb.

[filipetolhuizen]

My card design doesn't match the ones at the mac elite at all. So I think it's useless.

[supernova777]

My card design doesn't match the ones at the mac elite at all. So I think it's useless.

why dont u post a pic of the card so we can see and try to solve the problem

[filipetolhuizen]

Sorry it took so long, but here it is:



Note: Picture no longer available, it should have been uploaded here, but was hosted by "Comcast"

[filipetolhuizen]

Has anyone got a clue?

[supernova777]

hmm
have u tried the drivers with the cpu set to its proper speed instead of overclocked?

[supernova777]

2 Voodoo2 8MB in SLI, using a Radeon 7000 64MB which is working perfectly

SLI mode? a g3/g4??? for real?? why do u need so many video cards. how many screens are u driving!



have u tried the drivers+card on a fresh install of mac os 9?
which rom version. u've given us little information on your system.. are u using a mac os 9 build from our site? if so which? what rom version is your install?
if u have alot of gaming/funky SLI drivers u may have a conflict somewhere

[filipetolhuizen]

There are no Voodoo 2 drivers loaded on startup and yes, I tried booting without the V2 cards already. Mac OS ROM version is 8.7, should I update it?

[supernova777]

i think u should try a new install completley on a new disk using our 'drag install'

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1035.0

this version includes all the most recent updated files + versions of extensions
thats the reason why

u can simply unpack the file to a new drive or partition formatted under os9 (or X with 9 drivers) and then select it as your start up disk + reboot

this version contains rom 10.2.1
and the video drivers are built in aswell you may find it just works for this card?
fingers crossed for you;)

[filipetolhuizen]

I was just trying to extract it. The file is corrupted.

[supernova777]

I was just trying to extract it. The file is corrupted.

can u be a bit more specific
which file did u download?
and on which os using what program are u trying to expand/decode it?

be certain you arent right clicking and pressing save as on the link.
this does not work. u have to left click the link as tho going to a new page with your browser
for the download link to work correctly.

the sea.bin file needs to be expanded with stuffit expander on mac os 9
the img.sitx needs to be expanded with stuffit expander on mac os x, then u double click the img file to mount it.

make sure to copy the files directly to a new formatted partiton thats been formatted in 9 or formatted in X with the mac os 9 drivers option selected. could be a firewire drive or internal drive or partition.. doesnt matter.. any size will do aswell.. i think u could do this with as small as 5gb or maybe even smaller.

[filipetolhuizen]

I downloaded the Mac OS 9 image, which is about 473MB. I'm trying to extract it with StuffIt Expander 7.03, but it stops on the Applications folder with an error message that the file has errors and extracts nothing else beyond it. I even downloaded it twice just to make sure. I'm not using any download managers. I can't get the OS X image since I don't have OS X installed anywhere.