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ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« on: July 07, 2014, 05:35:09 PM »
First of all hello to everyone,
I came to this forum with a new hope for my Radeon 9200 mac edition pci 128mb. Unfortunately what I believed to be the hope for it (the ultra rare ATI july 2005 update) wasn't. Here's what happens: The card shows perfect picture but every Radeon 9200 compatible driver refuses to load and the system freezes upon showing the desktop. Could it be a damaged card? My system is: B&W G3 with a G4 400mhz original from "Yikes!" overclocked to 450mhz with proper voltage tweak, 1GB memory, 80GB + 40GB HDs, LG DVD-RAM, 2 Voodoo2 8MB in SLI, using a Radeon 7000 64MB which is working perfectly. I tried removing the voodoo2 cards, using it on the 33mhz slots but everything failed. I don't what else I can do for it to work as it's claimed to be 100% compatible with my system. Any help is appreciated.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 06:29:13 PM »
honestly.. yes on paper the radeon 9200 is alot bettre tehn the radeon 7000..
but i  have a g3 450mhz with a radeon 7000 card and it works great.. u should put your mind to doing some cool things with software and forget about chasing the max potential of the video card becasue this radeon 7000 card is good enough ..!

i myself have obsessed about trying to acheive the best video performance and best hardware combos but really this radeon 7000 functions just as good
be happy with yoru pc;)

are u using this mac for creative purposes?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 08:16:27 PM »
honestly.. yes on paper the radeon 9200 is alot bettre tehn the radeon 7000..
but i  have a g3 450mhz with a radeon 7000 card and it works great.. u should put your mind to doing some cool things with software and forget about chasing the max potential of the video card becasue this radeon 7000 card is good enough ..!

i myself have obsessed about trying to acheive the best video performance and best hardware combos but really this radeon 7000 functions just as good
be happy with yoru pc;)

are u using this mac for creative purposes?
Yes, the Radeon 7000 works great, but I was wondering if I could get better 3D performance. I use this Mac for retro-gaming. Sometimes the Radeon 7000 struggles on 3D mode, but is awesome in 2D. Before that I was even trying to reach 500mhz with the G4 ZIF module. I tried the proper voltage tweak on 2 different G4 400mhz processors but none were stable even not overheating. I followed the guide at xlr8yourmac but it didn't work for me so I stayed at 450mhz, which is great already.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 08:56:17 PM »
ok yes . for gaming then, if u are serious + want the best performance on mac os 9.. then there is nothing better then the GeForce4 Ti4600 or Radeon 8500
but of course those are AGP videocards..... and u want pci.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI</a>

maybe ask this guy what drivers he used?

but yea it seems hes using osx? so maybe this video isnt as relevant as i thought.

id say if these drivers dont work:
http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#CR

then your card is probably just fucked or something?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 05:08:25 AM »
ok yes . for gaming then, if u are serious + want the best performance on mac os 9.. then there is nothing better then the GeForce4 Ti4600 or Radeon 8500
but of course those are AGP videocards..... and u want pci.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkf9V1BC1YI</a>

maybe ask this guy what drivers he used?

but yea it seems hes using osx? so maybe this video isnt as relevant as i thought.

id say if these drivers dont work:
http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#CR

then your card is probably just fucked or something?
Yes, I think it is, I remember being in this page. I think I'll get a Radeon 9250 and flash it. At least I know they work with the july 2005 update.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 07:29:54 AM »
This are the ATI RAdeon 9200 drivers:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1193.0;attach=385

If the problem persist, may be originated by a different cause....
Please don't PM about things that are not private.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 12:19:39 PM »
This are the ATI RAdeon 9200 drivers:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1193.0;attach=385

If the problem persist, may be originated by a different cause....
Thank you, I'll try them. The name of the file says Radeon 9250. But didn't the july 2005 update already added support for it?
Oh, another thing that happens with mine is that it only shows image with the latest ROM. I tried flashing it with older ROMs for it but there was no picture at all. It's got a serial number of a real mac card, but the resistors positions don't match the ones in here (mine has red pcb as well): http://themacelite.wikidot.com/9250-trick

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 12:22:46 PM »
if your card is the power color pc version be glad it works at all! mine didnt show picture at all - i assumed that this was because of it being pci2.2 spec and above compatible only
i almost threw the card out untill i put it into a 2004 asus motherboard (Asus P4B533) and it worked fine
it gave problems with newer + older boards tho.. very strange

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 04:47:03 PM »
if your card is the power color pc version be glad it works at all! mine didnt show picture at all - i assumed that this was because of it being pci2.2 spec and above compatible only
i almost threw the card out untill i put it into a 2004 asus motherboard (Asus P4B533) and it worked fine
it gave problems with newer + older boards tho.. very strange
My card was purchased as an authentic Mac Edition (at least it's what it says on the S/N label) and it has red pcb.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 03:16:48 PM »
My card design doesn't match the ones at the mac elite at all. So I think it's useless.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 04:51:45 PM »
My card design doesn't match the ones at the mac elite at all. So I think it's useless.

why dont u post a pic of the card so we can see and try to solve the problem

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2014, 04:57:01 PM »
Sorry it took so long, but here it is:



Note: Picture no longer available, it should have been uploaded here, but was hosted by "Comcast"
« Last Edit: January 26, 2017, 08:00:00 AM by DieHard »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2014, 12:01:47 PM »
Has anyone got a clue?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2014, 12:06:21 PM »

hmm
have u tried the drivers with the cpu set to its proper speed instead of overclocked?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2014, 12:11:05 PM »
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2 Voodoo2 8MB in SLI, using a Radeon 7000 64MB which is working perfectly

SLI mode? a g3/g4??? for real?? why do u need so many video cards. how many screens are u driving!



have u tried the drivers+card on a fresh install of mac os 9?
which rom version. u've given us little information on your system.. are u using a mac os 9 build from our site? if so which? what rom version is your install?
if u have alot of gaming/funky SLI drivers u may have a conflict somewhere

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2014, 05:18:38 PM »
There are no Voodoo 2 drivers loaded on startup and yes, I tried booting without the V2 cards already. Mac OS ROM version is 8.7, should I update it?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2014, 08:16:36 PM »
i think u should try a new install completley on a new disk using our 'drag install'

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1035.0

this version includes all the most recent updated files + versions of extensions
thats the reason why

u can simply unpack the file to a new drive or partition formatted under os9 (or X with 9 drivers) and then select it as your start up disk + reboot

this version contains rom 10.2.1
and the video drivers are built in aswell you may find it just works for this card?
fingers crossed for you;)

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2014, 08:33:28 PM »
I was just trying to extract it. The file is corrupted.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2014, 08:59:53 PM »
I was just trying to extract it. The file is corrupted.

can u be a bit more specific
which file did u download?
and on which os using what program are u trying to expand/decode it?

be certain you arent right clicking and pressing save as on the link.
this does not work. u have to left click the link as tho going to a new page with your browser
for the download link to work correctly.

the sea.bin file needs to be expanded with stuffit expander on mac os 9
the img.sitx needs to be expanded with stuffit expander on mac os x, then u double click the img file to mount it.

make sure to copy the files directly to a new formatted partiton thats been formatted in 9 or formatted in X with the mac os 9 drivers option selected. could be a firewire drive or internal drive or partition.. doesnt matter.. any size will do aswell.. i think u could do this with as small as 5gb or maybe even smaller.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2014, 06:30:34 AM »
I downloaded the Mac OS 9 image, which is about 473MB. I'm trying to extract it with StuffIt Expander 7.03, but it stops on the Applications folder with an error message that the file has errors and extracts nothing else beyond it. I even downloaded it twice just to make sure. I'm not using any download managers. I can't get the OS X image since I don't have OS X installed anywhere.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2014, 09:54:40 AM »
I downloaded the Mac OS 9 image, which is about 473MB. I'm trying to extract it with StuffIt Expander 7.03, but it stops on the Applications folder with an error message that the file has errors and extracts nothing else beyond it. I even downloaded it twice just to make sure. I'm not using any download managers. I can't get the OS X image since I don't have OS X installed anywhere.

i will download the os9 image and test it for you right now.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2014, 10:03:54 AM »
I downloaded the Mac OS 9 image, which is about 473MB. I'm trying to extract it with StuffIt Expander 7.03, but it stops on the Applications folder with an error message that the file has errors and extracts nothing else beyond it. I even downloaded it twice just to make sure. I'm not using any download managers. I can't get the OS X image since I don't have OS X installed anywhere.

i will download the os9 image and test it for you right now.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I have Mac OS 8.6 installed on another hard drive, will I be able to replace my whole Mac OS 9.2.2 folder including Mac OS ROM within Mac OS 8.6?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2014, 10:29:25 AM »
u may be able to have more then one mac os 9 system folder on the same partition yes but ive not had much experience with this.... but i think the startup disk allows u to pick a specific folder and every bootable system will show up as an option within the startup disk control panel..

it may be a good idea to test it this way ...  why erase your old os if u dont have to

i also got an error expanding the file!!
im pretty amazed.. i cant believe this.. i mean i dont know which of the admins is uploading these untested files
when i create an archive to upload i make sure that i can expand it first.. u can be certain that the mac os x image works 100%

u might even try to download this image under mac os 9.. stuffit expander 7.0.3 might work to unstuff .sitx and mac os 9 will definately be able to mount the .img file
the contents of the archive is the same.. i made the osx file myself + uploaded it myself... and packaged it.. + tested it.. so i know it works..  and the contents are the same as the other os9 archive that is apparently
CONFIRMED by both of us as DAMAGED... the only other thing i can think of is that its a problem expanding it with 7.0.3 expander version..  this file was made by diehard i think.... and unless theres some type of data corruption issue with adrives system.. i dunno what exactly is the cause of this but we both got the same symptom

could this be caused by someones data connection on upload?
im going to try to expand the image on osx and see if it works fine there
i know diehard was packaging files on his mdd tho. im pretty sure he used mac os 9 only
but im not sure if this file was uploaded later by someone else.. but pretty sure diehard made it originally.

i suggest u try the osx image...
theres a chance like i sid that 703 will expand it ok.. even tho it is in .sitx format
« Last Edit: August 09, 2014, 10:44:23 AM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2014, 01:49:05 PM »
I think it expands .sitx format, but not always keep the resource fork intact. Anyway, getting the osx image right now.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2014, 02:48:29 PM »
Ok, The sitx file was successfully extracted and the .img was mounted using toast. Can I replace the files in my current OS 9.2.2 installation within Mac OS 8.6? Cause I like to keep things as clean as possible.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2014, 03:48:48 PM »
My goodness! I don't know how to thank you enough. This is the first time I got the card working on Mac OS 9.2.2. You are the greatest! Now I have achieved the max on my system.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2014, 03:55:23 PM »

thats the great thing about outdated operating systems: there is a "last version" of everything, and that stuff usually works.

in OSX 10.10.1 everything is beta and "soon".
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2014, 09:03:07 PM »
I've been wishing to do that for a long time, but never found the necessary files. You're all great for keeping this available.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2014, 09:27:14 PM »
My goodness! I don't know how to thank you enough. This is the first time I got the card working on Mac OS 9.2.2. You are the greatest! Now I have achieved the max on my system.

awesome...;) glad to help
im really disturbed by this corruption going on with files
that draginstall file shouldnt have had a problem.
its a prety important download and it doesnt even work
and wasnt even tested properly... ;(

re: 9200
i found some 256mb versions on ebay that are 5v pci
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PCI-ATI-Radeon-9200-256-MB-256MB-PCI-Video-Graphic-Card-Display-Graphics-VGA-/221454694027?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item338fba768b
tempted to try to flash one of these but not sure i wanna pay 30$ for a card that wont work in a g5
« Last Edit: August 09, 2014, 09:56:55 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2014, 10:29:54 PM »
I also have a spare Radeon 9250 PCI that I got while I searched for a solution to the Radeon 9200. The 9250 is a pc card that I flashed for Mac, but shows garbled image, probably due to those nasty resistors. Unfortunately the card doesn't match much with the reference designs at themacelite and I still need to figure out which are the right resistors. The card is exactly this model:
I'll take some photos of mine, in case you never seen this model before.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2014, 10:46:52 PM »
i got the same result trying to flash my powercolor pci radeon 9200
i think its hard to find the proper flashable one..
because like u eluded to, there is an additional hardware incompatibility or problem for alot of them

let us know how the performance is on the 9200 pci
i have read that it is comparible to the agp 8500 which is impressive

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2014, 08:01:37 AM »
It is quite impressive, I tested it with GLQuake, Unreal, SW Episode 1 Racer and RTCW. Huge gains over the Radeon 7000.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2014, 08:06:50 AM »
It is quite impressive, I tested it with GLQuake, Unreal, SW Episode 1 Racer and RTCW. Huge gains over the Radeon 7000.

i remember quite enjoying the star wars pod racer game ;) i had a joystick especially for this game back in 1999 !!

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2014, 08:10:03 AM »
www.ebay.ca/itm/Mac-Radeon-9200-128mb-AGP-Graphics-Video-Card-For-Apple-PowerMac-G4-G5-DVI-VGA-/251218834290?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3a7dcf3372

here they are selling some 9200 mac AGP cards
i wonder how this is compared to 8500/9000
if there would be performance gains ..
im not about to pay that price to find out tho
9200 AGP cant be worth 66$ that price is really wrong
i paid way less then that for my 8500 agp

R200 chip
http://www.gpureview.com/radeon-8500-card-22.html

vs

RV280 chip
http://www.gpureview.com/radeon-9200-card-69.html

comparing, i can see the 8500 mem bandwidth is still higher
hmm it says 8x agp too for the 9200 AGP

this cant be right this guys add claims "*True Quartz Extreme , Core Image (10.5 Leopard) Supported & Compatible. "
im pretty sure all the stuff i read by japamac said that the 9200 doesnt support q.e.
http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html
http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Page%203%3A%20Core%20Image%20.html

sorry i know we were talking about the pci version but i found this auction just now lookng to see if there are any 9200 pci for sale
« Last Edit: August 10, 2014, 08:21:08 AM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2014, 05:54:18 AM »
I thought the Radeon 7000 already supported Q.E. and C.I., so why the Radeon 9200 wouldn't?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2014, 06:54:26 AM »
I thought the Radeon 7000 already supported Q.E. and C.I., so why the Radeon 9200 wouldn't?

where did u read that?
all information i have ever seen indicates that
see this page stating that
"With the exception of the radeon 9700 oem, no apple oem graphics card shipped with a g4 supports core image"
http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Page%203%3A%20Core%20Image%20.html

pretty sure that the radeon 7000 is NOT a core image supporting card.
if u look at the chart on the previous page... it actually lists the radeon 9000 as being the very slowest core image card?
i had no idea radeon 9000 supported core image or perhaps it isnt and its only in there to show the differrence between core image
+ non core image? but wasnt explained as such.. this is the most likely explanation for its presence in the chart.. its definately not a core image card.

but..
none of this matters for mac os 9 because mac os 9 has no core image / quartz extreme support




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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2014, 07:50:55 AM »
I don't remember if they were both supported, but I read something like this on a guide for enabling them (or at least one of them) on PCI cards. I think it was available here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 08:05:51 AM »
I don't remember if they were both supported, but I read something like this on a guide for enabling them (or at least one of them) on PCI cards. I think it was available here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/

probably thinking of the fx5200 geforce
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/graphics/mac_pci_fx5200/mac_pci_fx5200.html

if not this article links to:
Feedback on Hack to Enable Quartz Extreme for Radeon PCI cards (in Jaguar to Tiger)
First Posted: August 27th, 2002 Last Updated: Nov. 2nd, 2005
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/quartz_extreme_PCI_mod.html#storytop

ok this page references the radeon 7000.. this is prob where u read that..
hmmmm...i have a g3 450mz /w a radeon 7000 pci;)
that is collecting dust atm

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2014, 05:00:18 PM »
A G3 + Radeon 7000 is the best match for compatibility and performance. The card is also the easiest one to transform from PC to Mac. The Radeon 9200 is a lot trickier than I thought, but worth the effort.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2014, 02:24:20 AM »
i have the official radeon 7000 mac edition card made by Sapphire
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102318
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Apple-Mac-G4-G5-ATI-Radeon-7000-PCI-64MB-Video-Card-DVI-VGA-S-Video-TV-Out-OS9-/200710223413
seems they are selling off a huge number of them for 30$ in this ebay auction
he also has the drivers up for download : http://howfunkel.com/

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Radeon X1900 Mac G5 Series Update Jan. 17, 2007 (13.7MB)
ATI Radeon OS9 Drivers/Software Update (Nov 2002) for Radeon 7000 AGP/PCI, 7500 AGP, 8500 AGP, 9000 AGP, and 9200 DVI-D AGP
Software (9.18MB)
Installation notes
ATI Radeon OS9 Drivers for Radeon 9200 PCI/AGP DVI-I cards
ATI Displays v4.5.7 (6.96MB)
ATI Radeon January 2005 Update for OS X 10.3.x and 10.4.x and 10.5.x (5.44MB)
ATI Radeon October 2002 Update for OS X 10.2.x (7.42MB)
Aug 2005 ATI Radeon ROM Update (5.06MB)
Temperature Monitor (to monitor GPU temp in GeForce 6200 in OS X)




interesting to note that hes posted this image to differentiate between the DVI-D + DVI-I versions of the 9200 pci
claming that the DVI-I needs these special drivers hes providing..  http://howfunkel.com/9200os9.sit

http://lowendmac.com/video/pci/radeon-9200.html
this page claims that:
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Physical Specs and Compatibility

The ATI Radeon 9200 is a PCI video card compatible with most Macs with PCI slots. However, ATI notes that it is not compatible with the Digital Audio and Gigabit Ethernet G4 Power Mac in Mac OS 9. It was never used as a standard video card on any Mac.
i would think that because of the similarities in architecture this would also include the quicksilver series.. which are 133mhz bus, ADC/AGP video?

http://www.barefeats.com/rad9200.html
according to this page, the 9200 performs even better for opengl in a powermac g5.. i guess because of the improved speeds of the pci bus.?
but not so well for 3d..

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/graphics/mac_radeon_9200pci_tests.html
interesting to note:
Radeon 9200 Quicksilver Dual 1.2GHz G4 9.2.2 <-- wait.. 1.2ghz dual quicksilver??? :o
B&W g3 results: (brokenlink on the above page) http://web.archive.org/web/20050520000617/http://homepage.mac.com/a2daj/9200Tests/Radeon9200GossamerTests.html
ok no it seems to be beige g3 upgraded to g4 533mhz in the test results

« Last Edit: September 23, 2014, 02:54:19 AM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2014, 02:57:37 AM »
im actually having an issue with my radeon 7000 pci.. if the machine goes to sleep
when it wakes up.. the video looks fine for the first second and thenit quickly becomes garbelled + artefacted which becomes worse as i move the mouse and try to do anything, pulldown menus etc introduce more distorted graphics .. making it quite impossible to do anything other then reboot the mac

my config:
powermac g3 b&W 450mhz
radeon 7000 pci
digi 001 card
Gina 20bit card
megawolf 'romulus' serial pci

maybe its being caused by some sort of sleep problem introduced by one of the other cards
i should pull all the others cards and test to see if i can recreate the problem
for now ive just removed the radeon 7000 completely and put back the original ati 128 gl card
which does not have that problem at all


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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2014, 04:14:31 PM »
I know some alternate Radeon 7000 BIOS you can try. There's the retail BIOS and OEM BIOS. Believe me or not, the OEM has better 2D performance than the Retail, so they're actually different.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2014, 08:37:35 PM »
the radeon 7000 pci might be the only "universal" graphics card for g3/g4s! (and pci/pci-x g5s!)
i guess the compatibility is the same for the 9200 pci card aswell?
maybe the reason the 9200 mac pci is so hard to find!!!!
i would like to get a few 9200 pci pci versions too.. just to have in case i need

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This graphics card is compatible with the following Macs:

    G3 Beige Desktop
    G3 Beige Minitower
    G3 Blue & White Tower (Yosemite)
    G4 Tower (Yikes!) (PCI Only, No AGP Slot)
    G4 Sawtooth 2x AGP
    G4 Gigabit Ethernet 2x AGP
    G4 Digital Audio 4x AGP
    G4 Quicksilver 4x AGP
    G4 Mirrored Drive Door (MDD) 4x AGP
    G4 FireWire 800 (FW800) 4x AGP
    G5 Tower 8x AGP
    G4/G5 Xserve

Additional info:

    Full Mac OS 9.2.2 support (drivers available from howfunkel.com)
    Full support for OS X 10.1 Puma and newer
    ATI Displays compatible
    No sleep problems
    Silent operation
    For ADC displays, you'll need to buy a DVI-ADC adapter separately
    Available display modes listed in the chart above are dependent upon your display

Recommended roles for this card:

    Adding displays while keeping your current AGP card
    G3/G4 systems without AGP
    Basic computing
    Light 3D applications
    Light 3D gaming
    DVD Playback
    Internet browsing
    Office applications
    2D graphics and design
    Inexpensive dual display capability
    Silent, cool operation (audio recording)
    OS 9.2.2 machines

wow i just realizd this threads been viewed 3500+ times :o
for anyone else looking to get the install that fixed the OP's problems

DOWNLOAD LINK: https://www.adrive.com/public/syNRnW/freshDragInstall.img.sitx

this is the link... and to use it u unstuff using stuffit expander
and then double click the .img file to mount and u can drag the files from the image anywhere u want them
this .img file can be mounted by double clicking in any powerpc mac os (8.6/9 or X) but on 8.6 u might need disk copy 6.4 (6.5b13 is incompatible with 8.6)
as long as the drive is partitioned with "apple partition map" (not GPT/GUID) and the file system is HFS or HFS+(mac os extended)
then it should boot fine.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2014, 08:49:12 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2014, 12:03:13 PM »
Im highjacking this thread a bit.

Decided to update the drivers on the TiBook from the original OS 9.2.2 ATi drivers to the Jan 2005 and Jul. 2005 drivers after that.

Hardware acceleration stopped working after boot, and of course I didn't do a backup of the old extensions...

Im also using Mac OS ROM 9.6.1 on this machine. Do I need a newer version to support hardware acceleration with this machine and driver version? It's a 1ghz PowerBook G4 "Titanium" with a ATi Radeon 9000 64mb graphicscard in it.

When booting I get the hardware acceleration extension (picture of a monitor with speed-lines on the left) with a red cross over it. Like it's not loaded for some reason.

It's a bit irritating since I use this machine for real and serious work. Can't do shit right now since everything is lagging.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2014, 12:17:12 PM »
Interesting... Just opened up Apple System Profiler, and it sees the G4 as a 666mhz version...

I might need a newer ROM after all.
Where can I download just a new ROM file? I don't feel like downloading the entire drag n' drop install.

The interesting thing would be to find out why this happend in combination with the driver update.
The machine in question has been running stable with the same Mac OS 9.2.2 install since late 2012.


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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2014, 12:55:58 PM »
I might need a newer ROM after all.
Where can I download just a new ROM file? I don't feel like downloading the entire drag n' drop install.

In my FTP folder there is a file named "Mac Os ROMs"...
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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2014, 07:49:11 AM »
I finally got it working again. I downloaded the "os9general.dmg" from Macintosh Garden and took the ATi Drivers from it and put in the extensions folder again. Rebooted, and it works!

Seems like my TiBook hates the 2005 ATi Drivers for some reason... Have anyone had this problem before as well?

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2014, 12:52:18 PM »
Have anyone had this problem before as well?

I have a DA 466 with original ATI agpx4 rage pro 128 upgraded with dual GHZ cpu from QS02

A friend left me to test an RADEON 9000 from a MDD and that did not work until I installed those  (or other post 2003 drivers) with the Rage 128 on the AGP port. Later, when I swapped the 9000 all worked perfect, but when I returned him the card and went back to the Rage, I needed to make a new install... Even with the extensions off minimum it did not booted...

 
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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2014, 07:09:46 PM »
finally scored a deal on one of these today.. 25$!
hope its a real card + not a modified one

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2015, 04:04:34 PM »
well i tried to install the updated extensions with a 9200 LE pci (mac edition)
And the accellerator crashed on start up.. in mac os 9.02 on a mac g4 sawtooth 400mhz

i had to force quit the accellerator to continue..
im pretty sure u need to have 9.2.2 to use those extensions..
im about to verify that by updating from stock restore cd for this machine
to 9.2.2 using the update files

**update
well it didnt even let me do the install .. perhaps because the extension had crashed im restarting now.. i trashed the extension and will try agian

after rebooting with extension disabled in extenion manager i was able to update to 9.0.4

updated from 9.0.4 to 9.1

then 9.1 to 9.2.1
then 9.2.1 to 9.2.2

reinstalled the extensions..
the result?

CRASH!!!! on boot.. complete lock up
thats with the mac edition radeon 9200 LE PCI

even with holding shift extensions off it still crashes..
replacing the AGP rage 128 pro .. it still crashes..

wow.. total fubar;)
i finally got booted up with the rade 128 pro + ext off
disabling all ati extensions allows me to boot again..

« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 04:59:34 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2015, 05:16:15 PM »
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http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#9200_requirements

Mac OS 9:

    ATI 3D Accelerator
    ATI 8500 3D Accelerator
    ATI Extension
    ATI Graphics Accelerator
    ATI Monitor
    ATI RADEON 3D Accelerator
    ATI Rage 128 3D Accelerator
    ATI Resource Manager
    ATI ROM Xtender
    ATI Video Accelerator
    ATI Video Digitizer
    OpenGLRendererATI
    ATI Displays Control Panel
    ATI Help Folder and Files
    CarbonLib

these are the items included with the 2005 update supplied at the url above

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2015, 05:24:02 PM »
ive just tried again with this file
and no crashes so far

i did notice that the driver versions were higher then the ones that mactron posted above

SPOKE TOO SOON!
crashed;) lol

could it be that im missing carbonlib?
well ok i think im ready to give up on this;) lol
i have no idea whats making it crash..
i even did hte "hotfix" rom write...
hoping that would be the silver bullet. but no..
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 05:59:40 PM by chrisNova777 »

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2015, 05:33:51 PM »
I finally got it working again. I downloaded the "os9general.dmg" from Macintosh Garden and took the ATi Drivers from it and put in the extensions folder again. Rebooted, and it works!

Seems like my TiBook hates the 2005 ATi Drivers for some reason... Have anyone had this problem before as well?

there must be something included with the os9general + freshdrag installs that it requires..
thats missing ..
one thing is the mac os rom 10.2.1 of course
but there must be some other difference aswell.
because the crash doesnt occurr untill the very end up the startup.. after network drives are attached..

wish we could really get this figured out because this kind of makes the radeon 9200 not even worth the hassle when it should be looked at as a decent card..
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 06:20:46 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2015, 07:30:26 PM »
is there any detailed extensions reporting tool that i can use to make a list easily of all extensions on a mac os installation so that i can properly compare my current install
with the mdd 10.2.1 install?

there must be a reason why ATI acceleration fails .. and this has happened to knez, me, apfel, filiphezuen(?) so it must have happened to alot of people..
glad i bought a radeon 8500 AGP instead of a radeon 9200 before.. wow what a headache this is - its almost not even worth the trouble

the only reason i wanted it was for my b&w g3...
but thers no way this card will work under mac os 8.6 apparently.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 07:50:24 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2015, 07:40:14 PM »
I finally got it working again. I downloaded the "os9general.dmg" from Macintosh Garden and took the ATi Drivers from it and put in the extensions folder again. Rebooted, and it works!

Seems like my TiBook hates the 2005 ATi Drivers for some reason... Have anyone had this problem before as well?

ok i didnt read this propeerly before but this makes sense as the card i had was working somewhat better before i tried the 2005 update... when i used those files it just got worse. alot worse...

those files are obviously for more advanced G4s.. like MDD or Quicksilvers...
not for sawtooth or tie book beause i had the same symptom.. the X thru the accellerator icon extension... something.. i checked my firmware .its updated to 4.2.8.. i am about to try your reccommended fix right now i am copying the os9general.dmg to my drive very slowly over airport ;D i really hope it fixes.. i have a feeling it will if it worked for you..
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 08:17:06 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2015, 09:24:21 PM »
ive just restored from the factory 9.0.2 restore cd again and my g4 is working fine with the radeon 9200...

so these "update files" are 100% not supporting the 9200 PCI mac edition card
even if they say they do.. theres something wrong with the files.. the drivers must be
BETA drivers and they do not work.. meanwhile the versions that shipped in 1999 with the
cds that the graphite g4 sawtooth machines  has no problem supporting this card....

******once more proof that the "highest version" is NOT ALWAYS THE BEST VERSION********

this cd contains mac os rom 3.5 dated jan 29th 2000

but of course  while its "Working fine" it is also not "Accelerated"
which is no good...

i just repartitioned to 2 parttions so that i could create a new install of the os9general or freshdraginstall aswell to test

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2015, 09:37:23 PM »
http://lowendmac.com/video/pci/radeon-9200.html

this article claims the 9200 mac edition PCI is not compatible with digital audio or quicksilvers...
they should have put sawtooths in the list too ;D this card is the worst card for mac os 9 lol

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2015, 10:14:05 PM »
http://lowendmac.com/video/pci/radeon-9200.html

this article claims the 9200 mac edition PCI is not compatible with digital audio or quicksilvers...
they should have put sawtooths in the list too ;D this card is the worst card for mac os 9 lol

9200 was great for G3s with PCI or as 2nd card on G4s.

Why are you so obsessed with 8.6?  ;D

I always installed 9.2.2 from a 9.1 disc and made all those updates on my G3 B&W

Looking for MacOS 9.2.4

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2015, 10:20:26 PM »
yes DUH thats why i bought it

anyways. i installed 9.2.2 using the "FreshDragInstall"
same result.. CRASH.. when using the 9200
this card is going in the garbage;)
radeon 7000 pci wasnt so much trouble as this..
but it was still a pain in the ass with some wierd problems where i had to replace the rage 128 card to be able to boot
this is bullshit

radeon 8500.. i never had ANY problem with it like this EVER

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2015, 10:26:58 PM »

Why are you so obsessed with 8.6?  ;D

that question has no relevance to this thread. but i will answer it to be polite..
because of compatibility with older applications. some application are not compatible with mac os 9...  mac os 9 made more radical changes .. 8.6 was radical inc omparison to 7.6 but not as much as 9...these topics have been covered tho;) so the short answer is.. compatibility.

this radeon 9200 is just not worth the trouble man. i seriously am going to throw it in the garbage. lol

if anyone can post what they did to get this card to work in detail
i would appreciate it..  i give up... perhaps its just incompatible with the g4 sawtooth.. i might have to just use it as a second display in osx, i read that it performs better in a g5.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 10:37:33 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2015, 05:40:54 AM »
i did notice that the driver versions were higher then the ones that mactron posted above

That's impossible.
... or I have made some mistake ...

thats with the mac edition radeon 9200 LE PCI

... we have to further investigate this Radeon model. I don't have any of them.

those files are obviously for more advanced G4s.. like MDD or Quicksilvers...
not for sawtooth

Not at all. I always use exactly the same Mac Os folder (with the same extensions) to ALL my G4s from Sawtooths to MDDs



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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2015, 07:43:09 AM »
the only thing i can think of is maybe the radeon 9200 LE pci is mac os x only..
and was never supported by the drivers in mac os 9.
it boots up.. appears to work fine.. and then once i get all the way booted up it just freezes... any idea what it could be?

like i said it works with the 'vanilla' restore of 9.0.2 just fine (unacelerated)
but yea.. im not even gonna try any more. :D



it has dvi-i port.
maybe the other radeon 9200 is dvi-D?
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/radeon-9200-dvi-i-drivers-os-9
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 08:07:47 AM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2015, 08:31:25 AM »
i just saw some listings on ebay claiming this card was pulled from a mac g5 xserve unit
maybe there was something different with these radeon "LE" cards

heres some pics
this is exactly what i have..
obviously i reccommend that u stay away from this card;)

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2015, 09:04:55 AM »
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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2015, 09:43:06 AM »
just tested in a b&W g3 to see if it would make a difference.. even with starting up from the os9 install cd... it freezes.. this card must be X only..

with this in mind, ive removed it, and placed it inside my g5
below is the cards properties listed in mac os x tiger when installed in my powermac g5 1.8ghz machine
it seems to have no problems there, and doesnt interfere with the other card thats installed (radeon 9800 pro)
i guess i will have to use this card for mac os x systems only.. probably works great on intel mac os x versions
as a secondary display in mac os x maybe its not so useless.. but it appears that the "LE" series is either incompatible
or too much trouble to reccommend for anyone
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 01:39:52 PM by chrisNova777 »

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2015, 12:51:38 PM »
Maybe it requires the updated 9.2.2 I got from here as well. Or maybe a BIOS mod. Try one from here:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2
And don't forget to backup the original!

Seems to be a very problematic card:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/mac_radeon_9200pci_tests.html
It is, I read this already, which explains all the trouble I had to get it working.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2015, 03:34:26 PM »
sorry I did not read everything, but:

I once had a problem with my flashed 9200 and discovered that according to themacelite flashed cards from the 9000 family (see more below) don't support HW acceleration, i.e. 3D. This is why the 9800 is sometimes called "not working in OS 9", in fact it only doesn't have 3D, when being a flashed card.


Here is what I did as a write up once:
I couldn't insert the text, because the format of the text gets scrambled, so I made a screenshot

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2015, 04:58:49 PM »
The lack of 3d support on flashed 9000/9200 cards might be because of this:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/9250-trick
Regarding the Radeon 9800, there was no 3d driver for it made for Mac OS 9.2.2, so it will only work in 2D, even if it's an original Mac card.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2015, 11:49:20 AM »
the hardware accelleration also affects 2d... as seen when dragging windows there is this "rol up" bottom to top refresh when accelleration is not enabled which is the primary reason making it undesirable to most users i think

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2015, 02:33:37 PM »
I once read somewhere that there actually were Mac OS 9.2.2 2D drivers for the Radeon 9800 Mac edition that came with the card, but they're 2D only.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2016, 07:20:02 AM »
Sorry to resurrect the thread. I am trying to install 9.2.2 on my PM G4 Yikes with ATI Radeon 9200, install went fine but upon restart, the ati extensions are not loaded and I get a blank screen.

If I turn off the extensions, I can boot fine to desktop but I can not change the screen resolution since the "Monitors" control panel is not accessible or will not open.

I have no other PCI vid card except for this one.

Maybe some gurus here can shed light and direct me to the fix?

The installation s/w is os9 universal I downloaded from here.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2016, 08:22:24 AM »
Welcome Nameci to our humble Forum!

The 9200 seems a card to avoid for OS9 setups. That card shine on OSX setups, but it is not totally stable on OS9 IIRC.
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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2016, 10:41:14 AM »
  There are multiple variants of 9200, which might be part of his problem.  Drivers might need to be updated beyond what shipped with 9.2.2 too.  I reported recently in the Xserve-on-9 thread that my ATI Radeon 9200LE 128MB PCI card worked without issue, even when placed in a PCI expansion chassis.  This is an official retail Mac model, not flashed or modified.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2016, 06:23:45 PM »
Welcome Nameci to our humble Forum!

The 9200 seems a card to avoid for OS9 setups. That card shine on OSX setups, but it is not totally stable on OS9 IIRC.

It seems like it is not stable on OS9 as what you have said. It is fully working on 10.4.11, but not on OS9. I have no other card but this, it seems I might just be contented with running OS9 on classic then.

Thanks for the welcome, long time lurker here.

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Re: ATI Radeon 9200 + Mac OS 9.2.2
« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2016, 07:13:45 PM »
the latest graphic card drivers and firmware updates for OS9 are somewhere here in this forum, try these first.

like mac os plus said, the later 9200 mac edition models are several years older than the OS 9.2.2 golden master.
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