mLAN

[teroyk]

Actually every early (between 1999-2003) mLAN Tools versions from CD-ROMs are welcome.

[devils_advisor]

I got my yamaha 01x in use with mlan for a while.

[macStuff]

im trying to learn more about mlan,
unfortunately the only way to learn seems to be going out and buying some mlan devices

[teroyk]

im trying to learn more about mlan,
unfortunately the only way to learn seems to be going out and buying some mlan devices

It seems buying is so hard to my synth. I have Yamaha CS6x and it fits with only with Yamaha mLAN 8E. That mLan 8E is one
of the first mLAN devices and Yamaha took some of them back it has one hard problem, it cannot play recorded audio back from computer,
but I am still ready to buy it, if I see one sale somewhere. I have seen one for sale with Yamaha Motif6 in this year, but seller
doesn't wanted send it. And in Motif6 the mLAN 8E is very useless, because it is better with AIEB2 digital I/O.

If somebody has Motif ES for mLAN:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Mlan16e-firewire-expansion-board-MINT-used-Mlan-card-for-sale/142611262235
If somebody has lot of money can test mLAN with this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-DME64N-Digital-Mixing-Engine-3x-MY8-DA96-1x-MY8-mLAN-Cards-5-/332361970886

[macStuff]

You should be able to use the 01x as a  control surface for Live with motorised faders - although I do not recall at what version Ableton Live implemented the Mackie Control protocol.

that would be a sweet setup!

[teroyk]

Actually every early (between 1999-2003) mLAN Tools versions from CD-ROMs are welcome.

Has anybody Presonus Firestation CD-ROM from that time perioid?. I also interested in what mLAN stuff it has.

[DieHard]

Had the CD... still looking, but things are not looking good... lost 2 binders, including AKAI stuff that a "friend" was nice enough to throw out for me...

[macStuff]

a friend of mijne recently bought a AW4416 and he had problems burning an image of the cd he needed that came with the aw4416, so after looking all over, he finally called yamaha tech support and they sent him a brand new copy of the cd.. from 2003? or 2002? so if u are looking for the cd i suggest u simply call yamaha tech support!

[devils_advisor]

I cant believe it, the yamaha motif es working in os9 with a 01x. Wonder if the next higher ones work the same way.

[teroyk]

a friend of mijne recently bought a AW4416 and he had problems burning an image of the cd he needed that came with the aw4416, so after looking all over, he finally called yamaha tech support and they sent him a brand new copy of the cd.. from 2003? or 2002? so if u are looking for the cd i suggest u simply call yamaha tech support!

I asked and they said that no CD-ROMs or another spare parts available those older mLAN devices anymore
So does your friend still have it?

[macStuff]

 

what do u need frm the original cd?

https://www.presonus.com/products/FIREstation/downloads
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/FIREstation_mLAN_Driver_Manual_EN.pdf
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/FIREstation_Owners_Manual_EN.pdf
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/FIREstation_mLAN_Patchbay_Manual_EN.pdf
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/FIREstation_Quick_Start_Mac_EN.pdf
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/Windows_XP_install_guide_thorough.pdf
https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downloads/products/pdf/buffer_settings_2.pdf

[teroyk]

what do u need frm the original cd?

For software that are mentioned in those Driver Manual and Patchbay Manual pdfs.
There also should be mLAN Mixer software.

[acelera]

MLAN Mixer software is the Studio Manager app for the 01.that's still downloable too.

For the audio midi patching and setup you just use the Graphical Patchbay app that comes with the driver package. 

[teroyk]

MLAN Mixer software is the Studio Manager app for the 01.that's still downloable too.

For the audio midi patching and setup you just use the Graphical Patchbay app that comes with the driver package.

But I looking for mLAN Mixer software version before that Studio Manager and Patchbay software version before that Graphical Patchbay version.
That was before 01x release. Now official Yamaha downloadable version doesn't support mLAN S200 devices except Presonus Firestation and Kurtzweil KMLN8 after firmware update. And after that they doesn't work with another S200 devices.

[k1]

I just got an i88X.  Waiting for the mLAN16E to come in so that I can connect my Motif ES.  I'll give it a go this weekend with Logic on OS9.

[teroyk]

And I got after last visit Yamaha mLAN8P, just paying too much...and without driver CD  So needing old mLAN-Tools CD-ROM more than ever. And where to get Yamaha mLAN8E to my instrument...so that I can make real mLAN s200 network with my Powerbook.

[refinery]

Once the drivers became stable, you could use a Firestation as part of an mLAN network with mLAN 2 devices quite successfully as there was a firmware/driver upgrade for it.

Actually, the practical application was quite the opposite. I can say, myself, my own experience, that the magical firmware update for that compatibility completely bricked my firestation, and I was far from the only one. Presonus at that point was so sick of supporting the device they basically completely signed off on it and refused to help me any further... this was because I had updated my device after their swap/upgrade window (that's how awful these things were... presonus for a time was basically giving away Firepods to people who had firestations because they were such a flawed product)... Presonus swore up and down that the problem was Yamaha's buggy firmware.

That was almost 15 years ago and I swore I would never buy a Presonus device again (or Yamaha for that matter). Its a damn shame too because, besides for mLAN, the firestation was an amazing interface. the power transformer in them was one of the biggest ive ever seen in a 1U device, like the size of a hockey puck.

[teroyk]

Did you know that Yamaha made drivers only for Mac OS 8.6-9.2.2 for these devices and expansions:
Yamaha mLAN8P
Yamaha mLAN8E
Yamaha CD8-mLAN
Yamaha MY8-mLAN
And Yamaha release Yamaha mLAN Mixer Software only on CD-ROM with mLAN8P/E. Without that software those devices are almost useless. That CD-ROM has also software for Win95/98 , but there is not mLAN drivers for Win95/Win98, it just remote control software thru serialport

But! Now I afraid that those driver files (especially mLAN Mixer any version) are lost in to history...Or has somebody?
I also interested to find all those devices for historic reasons.

[hoovers@dawn]

My Mlan Rant...

So i had this 01x around here for over 6 months & i finally had the time to try it out. so after 3days & a heap of research, round in circles & mis-guidance from other operatoring sytems intsalls etc, it had clock sync errors, wouldnt communicate etc & I just couldnt get the remote section to work yet alone get sound out of it. I was ready to take to it with a sledge hammer so no one else will suffer the same mLAN frustration!

So they were not joking when it comes to mlan for the uninitiated.  END OF STORY....  But really it isnt that bad. its actually pretty cool & the remote control of logic 6.4.3 under os9 is really great (sold my logic control 15 years ago) & its sounds pretty good. ( havent tried the yamaha plug ins etc & older logic 4.8 etc...

i will write a install guide for us OS9 people as thats the main problem with no info,  no install cd's etc & too much misinformation & different operating systems & "there" problems. its really quite simple with the right steps, no webarchive, no facebook groups etc. just the drivers & the correct installation & your on!

I crashed os9 & the G4MDD restarted with a leopard hard disk in there...  I saw the OSX apple boot logo,  was "OH *#@!!!!" & powered it off with the power button so it couldnt boot. OSX 10.5 just bt tree errored my os9 hard disks without even completing a start up.

why was OSX lion in there?? I thought the 01x was dead or bricked & i got it going in leopard first as i couldnt get it to talk at all in os9....